FL Is really based in the Sol System!

MY apologies. I never played starlancer. Only read and heard about it. And how big was Sol? I hevaent worked everything out yet, but what i have is plausabile. But the big thing that needs to be refuted to make this completely false is this. How did a Sabotaged sleeper ship make it 800 years away if it was destroyed within hours of launch? As for millions of years, maybe the "Wake up" timer got broken and woke them up BILLIONS of years later. Maybe the jumpgates "Sirus" has reach further than anything Sol had acess to. Remember, a system and civilization is built on its resources. Try having a civilization with no metal. IT wont work nearly as well in space as one with metal. Maybe there were robots onboard ot maintain the ship? Maybe it was an autopilot to send out a help call and wake up the other ships is one came under attack. That way the fight off the attackers.and go back to sleep. There are a million and one ways for it to have happened. But if you can find a way for the Hispaniana to have made it on an 800 year journey as a hunk of wreckage, this whole theroy means nothing. G´night. I got to go to bed. Edited by - Widdowmaker on 04-06-2003 05:55:41

Sol = our sector, our solar system. The sun (sol), the earth, the whole big family. It says that in the intro too (youll see mars)

It is 800 years past since they started colonizing Sirius, not the journey duration. It is unknown how long the journey to Sirius took. And it certanly is not Sol where Freelancer takes place, so leave it be. <img src=´http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustraci…uktura/Vidovi/rod-avi.jpg ´><img src=´http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Simboli/cinovi/cin13_13.jpg ´> Cpbuja ybuja!

Now Sol CAN be included in Freelancer, there is a mod that adds it, Russian mod.

That´s nice (especially because it´s a Russian mod), but we were all talking about the original, unmodded version. <img src=´http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustraci…uktura/Vidovi/rod-avi.jpg ´><img src=´http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Simboli/cinovi/cin13_13.jpg ´> Cpbuja ybuja!

Yeah I noticed, there is a far way between these systems. It is NOT a rocks throw away. But that nice little mod. Now all we need is the coalition force and every FL player out there.

Yes... And pigs can fly right?? The ones who have havn´t... The ones who don´t do...

*sigh* All anyone has said is &quot;Sol cant be where frelancer is.&quot; Proof? Show me evidence to sugest otherwise. Phisical proof. I have mine. There is *NO* *WAY* the Hispana could have made any lengthy journey even out of our solar system, and no way for it to reach &quot;sirus&quot; as many belive. How did the HP get to sirus? Hmm?

I imagine the Hispania reached Sirius the same way the other sleeper ships did. Unfortunately, I´m no expert on practical FTL physics. How about you? - the First Evil

WidowMaker, you have no proof, at least from what I know nowhere has it said that the Sabotague occured in Sol, or anywhere near it for that matter, and besides Sol, once again as I know, is only 1 system, not a sector, but I´ve never played Starlancer so I wouldn´t really know. Oh and if it was you that said about the bright star, Sol´s star would be normal sized from there, the bright stars are all of the surrounding systems in-game. And FINALLY, the &quot;HP&quot;, although sabotagued, still could have had it´s Guidance systems and Jump Equipment intact, therefore, although badly damaged, could still have gotten to Sirius, but maybe a few years later than the rest, which DOES make sense.

Widowmaker, it could have easily made it. first of all, projectiles in motion stay in motion in space, so why wouldnt it have made it? second of all, the malfunction could have happened later in the journey... which is probable knowing that the corsairs left while the hispania was slowly moving, and forced the outcasts to stay aboard, so therefore it is also impossible that they simply landed the ships and set the sleeper timers, because it was still moving when they awoke prematurely. Thrid of all, the original intro is NOT the intro they used, and for a reason. They scrapped it because they realized it might lend itself to contradictory situations. Give it up

the intro where sol was destroyed by the nomads WAS CUT FROM THE GAME!, is that clear enough for you?

Heh, yeah that´s actually very inacurate anyway if you ARE going by the original intro (I read it back before I had the game, so that´s how I remember it so well) EVERYTHING was destroyed, the sun, the asteroids, the comets, everything but Pluto was taken out. So if you´re using that as proof Freelancer would be based on a Tiny Planet with no sun, attempting to support the entire Population of the Sol SYSTEM, which reminds me, Sol, if I´m not mistaken, is a SYSTEM, Sirius, is a SECTOR. Big Difference. Sector is a number of systems, pretty much the level after galaxy, I think anyway. Galaxy-&gt;Sector-&gt;System-&gt;Planet-&gt;Continent I guess anyway...probably missing something there... You know though, it´s interesting how the Alliance, who´s losing the war, was able to fill the sleeper ships with enough people to get the Sirius Sector inhabited as it is in an estimated 8 generations, and yet still have enough people fighting to break them through a full blown Coalition Blockade.

There are some gasses in space (nebulas ect). And that would cause fristion to slow it down. So there is some friction but very lettle through out the whole of space. I am using the intro shipped with the game. It shows the hispana take shots to the side. And if there were badly damaged there would be hull breachs. Show me an intro, so me a rumor on a bar, show me somthing recreatable denying the hispana could not have made it. Just yelling at me because you think i am using a different intro does not help you. Nice theroys everyone, anyways i dont want to start a flamefest so just let the thread die, i got my opion and everyone else has theirs.

If you think about it, Sol is &quot;south-west&quot; (down and right) of the Sirius Sector. How can you tell? Well, supposedly, the Corsairs got off the Hispania at Omicron Gamma, while the Hispania kept drifting IN THE SAME DIRECTION AS BEFORE onwards to Omicron Alpha. So the location of Sol would be a long, LONG way down and right from Omicron Gamma. It is known that those 5 ships activated their main engines and escaped the SOl system. The Bretonia lost some engines, so it basically drifted to where Bretonia is in the game, but they got there a long time after the other ships made it to Sirius, which is why Bretonia went through such a rapid industrialisation to catch up to the other houses. The Hispania had some sort of problem, caused by the Coalition sabotaging it. But it only happened AFTER the 5 ships activated their engines. So it too would have drifted to Sirius, but they would be a lot worse off because the lack of any working engines, while the Bretonia still had a few good ones. &quot;I don´t want to end up a corspe before my time because YOU were daydreaming... AAAAAHH!&quot;

Odd. I always thought the intro focused in on the Liberty exchanging fire and blowing up the blockading Coalition cruiser. Afterwards all the sleeper ships jump to hyperspace.

The Hispania was sabatoged when they were close to Sirius. They limped to Omicron Alpha and then the Corsairs and the Outcasts were formed. And if it was Sol how come there is no Earth or Mars or Jupiter. What a retard.

ppl, calm down. There is nothing wrong with proposing a theory. Although it seems stupid to us, Widdow has never played FL and never seen the intro. I think that FL is not set in the sol system, these are the events as I see them. They are in order by time. 1. The Alliance is loosing the war, they start building 5 sleeper ships. Coalition spies report this. The Coalition, thinking that they are infact massive war ships, sends out infiltrators into the work crew the sabotage the ships in any way possible. 2. One spy puts a defective part in the Hispania´s engines that causes a graduall loss in efficency untill the engines will eventually loose power. 3. The Coalition jumps to Jupiter on it´s main assualt. The sleeper ships are launched. By this time, the Coalition knows that they are infact colony ships and pose little danger and only put up token resistence to the colony ships. 4. The other 4 ships jump to Sirrus. The Hispania drops out of jump speed in the void due to the defective part. An auto alarm system wakes up the crew. They find and replace the part, but the engines are damaged beyond repair. They manage to cobble together some make-shift thrusters. 5. The crew go back to sleep, telling the ship to wake them when the thrusters give out. The thrusters last longer than expected and puts them at the edge of Sirrus. The crew, finding that they are not on the map of Sirrus split up. The outcasts and the cosairs are isolated until one of they are found by one of the colonies. Knowing that they are no match for the industrial, economical and political strength of the houses, they resort to piracy. Email me at Picard_111@hotmail.com if u want some clarifications.

If the hispania get into hiperspeed (jumpdrive) only other engines can stop the ship... my first ask is... how far is the serius system from sol (where sol was...) if we know how far, we can calculate how fast hiperspeed (jumpdrive) is and how fast the hispania was... it was 800 years ago before it was in omicron Alpha (read current information planet malta) in the intro they said... that they landed 800 years ago on planet malta... or was it wen they went away from sol??? Liberty 01AS Bretonia nothing to found about settlement <img src=smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Kusari 5AS Rheinland nothing to find about settlement <img src=smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Hispania 800 years ago in omicron alpha (settlement on planet malta...) rn´t we now in the year 800AS??? if it´s now 800AS, then the problem of the Hispania is that it was going to fast and destroyed by heating-up there engine... they must slow down the ship (nearby planet crete (omicron gamma))... some doesn´t like it and half the &quot;crew&quot; stayed in gamma, the others stayed and go slowly to alpha... and isn´t 1AS not 1 year after shipping??? so kusari did 4 years longer (what´s the reason for that short way???) and y isn´t there something to found about the Rheinland and the Bretonia sleeperships??? (is it military secrets<img src=smilies/icon_smile_question.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>)