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    I would like to add that tasiin and sput will be granted safe passage and owl protection into seattle and will be treated as guests, see this as a healthy duel competition invitation.

    Anyways, an OWL got to elite today, WASTED every neo he could, and was banned for it, no matter OWL will be swarming elite by the dozens and owl is the greatest, and i have the pics to prove it <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Go ahead feel free to use stingers ban gun, you cant hit us all And here are the pics that prove that a single OWL can take on NEO without a scratch http://cleaveroeiras.tripod.co…derpictures/neodead-2.jpg http://cleaveroeiras.tripod.co…derpictures/neo-dead1.jpg He was undercover and his nick was BEAST, it seems that anyone good enough that isnt NEO gets banned on elite Edited by - cams on 25-07-2003 02:08:03

    Does this thread have a destination in mind? Does sound like a good battle is in store, where can I buy the tickets? <font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade> stingers ban gun <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> I just wish others could see the world from a <b> working </b> server admins point of view every now and then. Might change the prespective of others a bit on the decision making process when it comes to enforcing the server RuleZ. Then again, maybe not.... for the record, I did not ban him. Edited by - Stinger on 25-07-2003 04:33:39

    Im still waiting to hear why that guy is banned.... What image do you want us to have about you anyway? Yes its not preety when this kind of weird things happen without any motive now please i would apreciate if you find out why my clannie was banned.

    Stinger i would like to know why you banned Beast from elite for no reasone he told us he wasnt cheating he even gave us pics of his loadout cash everything........ He killed those NEO´s fare and square and he deserves to be able to play on that server......someone must have gave you the rong info somewhere but if someone did please tell me what they said and maybe Beast can correct it thanks <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

    He did cheat. He was double mounting TDC´s. And no it wasn´t the bug which shows up as double mounts. First bit of evidance to support what i know; 1. Double mounting bug affects ONLY nomads, and it appears on everyone in the area that you scan. So it´s a bug on the VIEWER&quot;S side, NOT the VIEWED side. It was not nomads in this case, but TDC´s, and his nomads appeared to be normal... hmmmmmm.. wonder why.. And then everyone elses guns at crete were perfect, no abnormal set ups at all for the rest of the pilots. 2. How in gods name can 2 TDC´s (assuming ofcouse Beast is telling the truth) take down FULL class 10 shields in a split second. I literally saw him kill a NEO from Full Shields/Full Hull without any noticable damage aside from a explosion. That tells me that in one shot just before his sunslayer/cannonball hit, a butt load of TDC fodded took out the shields. 2 tdc´s are not strong enough to do that in a SPLIT SECOND. Cheers; ps. If you wish to see screen shots. I´ll be more than happy to provide them.

    Curiously atakaka wrote to me saying it was a cloaking mod. You all are doing a very dangerous thing here, using the admin confidence on you as a mean to get undesirable ppl banned, it will all blow on your face one day. Next time we strike you will have to make up excuses for an entire squadron, and dont worry everyone will be taking pics and gathering evidence to avoid your false but dangerous claims. And you were talking about pics right? My man by chance took a pic of his ship on the shop before battle http://cleaveroeiras.tripod.co…lderpictures/evidence.jpg http://cleaveroeiras.tripod.co…derpictures/evidence2.jpg http://cleaveroeiras.tripod.co…derpictures/evidence3.jpg Do you see any extra weaps mounted? And we all use sunlslayers, a single hit gets the shield down 100%, cannon ball does the kill Edited by - cams on 25-07-2003 06:06:50 Edited by - cams on 25-07-2003 06:21:50

    Firstly, that inventory could be of ANYONE. It doesn´t show anybody´s name. Secondly the double mounts dont show up in the inventory because they are on the same mount spot.. SO an inventory shot woudln´t prove a god damn thing. You have to take screenies of the &quot;sub target&quot; menu. Thanks for coming out, now i´ll let you crawl home.

    Please stop flaming and do see the dialog progressing, you can see mad dog bragging something and some other guy talking. You dont find my evidences enough? Well even if i had an entire gallery of evidence that would never suffice, so why the hell shall i find your claims (with even no pics) relevant? I was on NEO, and i know how NEO fabricates evidence, i know about the private server you kids have to create cheating situations, so pleeeease cut the hipocrisy and go to the nearest hole available because ppl that go this way down just to win a game deserve to be on a hole deep underground. I think the administrator team on elite must keep a very open eye on future about their &quot;helper&quot; team and colaborators as playing on elite and cheat detecting is getting more and more similar to a witchhunt or the spanish inquizition. Finished my claim on this matter, feel free to lock or flame around.

    This isn´t a flame, and as i said before (i quote) &quot;ps. If you wish to see screen shots. I´ll be more than happy to provide them.&quot; Problem is i dont have anywhere to host them on the net, THEREFORE y o uhave to provide me with some sort of email or something to send them to you. Secondly, if you had pictures that were of a subtarget menu that showed no double mount and had chat dialog which is recognizable as occuring during the time in question (i was there) i would believe them. I´m not out to have someone banned because they are good, but i am out to have someone banned if they are cheating. As i see it right now, he was cheating. The evidance infront of me leads me to believe that. If you have alternative evidance that is undoubtably of beast´s layout, and pictures that WOULD NOT HIDE the double mount (ie. not inventory pictures) it might sway my impression.

    Anyways, some kind soul from elite gave me this http://cleaveroeiras.tripod.co…tebuilderpictures/lol.jpg It seems you deserve to be banned too : But you wont, why? you will claim this could be fabricated (wich it wasnt anyways), validity=0 So every pic you post here to me or send will have the same meaning In the end its all about the word of some ppl against the word of others Its really sad that on a server a word of a clan would suffice to get someone banned Beast is an OWL, we are the server police on the UK server, we have our ethics and code of honour, and pal we never cheat, i dont expect you to believe it, nor i care, but i believe in that, and feel superior to the kinds of you, as i never cheated and never cheated (in the way of getting ppl banned resorting to cheap tricks and deceit) So have it your way, your behaiviour will only promote others to get new ID´s and start again on the server when account creation is up and in the end, loose faith and respect for the server rules and administration policy. On a side note, you claimed my buddy always had no damage on him in each duel...wrong again http://cleaveroeiras.tripod.co…derpictures/neodead-2.jpg His hull was on 10% http://cleaveroeiras.tripod.co…derpictures/neo-dead1.jpg No shields here Edited by - cams on 25-07-2003 09:18:21

    Has anyone considered the possibility of a short lag spike affecting the observer during the duel(s)? That could make shields seem to disappear in the blink of an eye when really that wasn´t the case. There have also been two different people testifying in this thread that it is possible to take out shields that quick...

    i cant believe those nooby neos havent fiogured the trick out yet......when you use 2 cannons 2 tdc 1 rapier and one blaster blus missles torps and mines it damaged the sheild alot!.....the nomads have different fire rates beetween the blasters and cannons so it causes a steady stream of fire which damages sheilds faster then using 3 of the same type of nomads at once....they still shoot with the normal firerates those weapons have but the blaster will refire earlier then the cannon then the cannonfires then the blaster fires etc etc. it causes a stream of fire which can give you a better hit ratio and slightly more sheild damage....once i get in elite ill show everyone how to do it.....just because i teach them how to do it dosent mean they will have more skill <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>.....o any another thing if the nomads and TDC´s fail i use a sunslayer which knocks sheilds out 100%....i also have pics of my loadout proving i havent double mounted TDC´s......i even checked with a member of my clan by getting him the same loadout him firing at me once and me firing at him once.....we did the same amount of damage i have pics to prove it....and that proves it isnt a cheat just a very smart way of organizing weapons systems <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> thats all i have to say l8er all