Utopias

@sS really, none at all? come on you must have one It is better to aim for the stars and hit the tops of the trees than to aim for nothing and hit it dead on. <img src=´http://www.planetgromit.co.uk/tlr/freighter.gif ´> <img src=´http://smileys.smil

from wat u said i have a pretty good idea on what a Utopia is... but is a Utopia exactly? Muwahahahaha!!! I lost it!!!.....or better yet; did I ever have it?

the basic idea behind a utopia is this: everyone lives in a perfect world, but everyone has there own ideas of what a perfect world is. It is better to aim for the stars and hit the tops of the trees than to aim for nothing and hit it dead on. <img src=´http://www.planetgromit.co.uk/tlr/freighter.gif ´> <img src=´http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_3_7.gif ´>

yeah Osama Binladen´s &quot;perfect world&quot; is when the United States is destroyed Muwahahahaha!!! I lost it!!!.....or better yet; did I ever have it?

politics wolfy, you know better than that...actually, no you dont It is better to aim for the stars and hit the tops of the trees than to aim for nothing and hit it dead on. <img src=´http://www.planetgromit.co.uk/tlr/freighter.gif ´> <img src=´http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_3_7.gif ´>

of course i dont know better! you shuld know better! Muwahahahaha!!! I lost it!!!.....or better yet; did I ever have it?

yeah i should and i do <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> but do you think thats gonna stop me? It is better to aim for the stars and hit the tops of the trees than to aim for nothing and hit it dead on. <img src=´http://www.planetgromit.co.uk/tlr/freighter.gif ´> <img src=´http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_3_7.gif ´>

Utopia. You mean like a Simworld except that there are no disasters?

here´s mine. President for Life Tawakalna runs a repressive Socialist police state called the People´s Democratic Republic of North Staffordshire. All citizens are monitored by the Cyber Police Division of the State Security Kommissariat, supervised by the Revered Leader himself. There is no unemployment, and no homelessness. All citizen´s are catered for and gainfully employed by People´s Co-operatives, or in the People´s Army, which defends our borders and spreads the Revolution to our neighbour´s in Shropshire, West Midlands, Derbyshire, and Cheshire. Republican Guard units are in the vanguard of the popular struggle and encourage the proletariat to increase their efforts to safeguard the Revolution, under the benevolent guise of &quot;Uncle Taw&quot; All dissent is crushed immediately, and those who would undermine the achievements of the Revolution must face the People´s Judiciary Councils and then the mercies of the Special Republican Guard. Prisoners of war are paraded down the triumphal &quot;Festival Way&quot; which is also the scene of the impressive military displays of the People´s Army, in front of the stunning minimalist Presidential Palace (designed by the Leader himself,) filling the hearts of loyal citizens with pride as they spontaneously applause the Dear Leader Tawakalna for his wisdom and foresight. Vegetarianism is a crime, low-fat food is forbidden, meat pies are freely distributed, and all citizens must undergo elementary computer skills training, and learn to drive. Laptops are licensed. Escaflowne is shown on television every day, but edited so that Emperor Dornkirk wins. Women are forced to wear burkahs and must walk 5 paces behind men. The former Port Vale site is flattened and a huge statue of the Dear Leader as a young man shaking hands with Sir Stanley Matthews is built in it´s place. Workers gather before their shifts to sing the Red Flag, the Internationale, and the theme tune from Fireball XL5. now I ask you, how could anybody possibly object to any of that?

Sounds good, excpet for the whole repressing women thing. Oh, and which version of the internationale? Pre WWII soviet, post WWII soviet, or South African? --- VH16 The people know only what they want, the government only what they need. Whoever came up with &quot;Mission Commision&quot; should be lined up and shot

everyone outside your ´kingdom´ the people inside.... the mrs maybe, the cat... It is better to aim for the stars and hit the tops of the trees than to aim for nothing and hit it dead on. <img src=´http://www.planetgromit.co.uk/tlr/freighter.gif ´> <img src=´http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_3_7.gif ´>

Such questions will be forbidden in the New Order.

in my perfect world, i will have a mrs, maybe a couple of kids and a decent job. simple, and yet so perfect Edited by - freighter fighter on 24-12-2003 02:41:51

The Party will provide you with a wife at the appropriate time, or you can apply in advance to the People´s Commissariat for the Regulation of Domestic Harmony. In the People´s Democracy created by the Great Leader, Father to his People, Defender of the Revolution, Liberator of the Workers, all jobs are of equal value and are therefore all &quot;decent&quot; no matter in what capacity you serve the Revolution and it´s Founder, who works hardest of all. Malcontents who seek to disrupt the New Order must face the righteous anger of the People. But even the counter-revolutionaries and enemy spies who populate the labour camps and punishment battalions learn to love the New Order. it´s not a Kingdom, it´s a Peoples Democratic Republic loosely based on an arbitrary synthesis of autocracy, benevolent paternalism, military dictatorship and neo-Marxism. Edited by - Tawakalna on 24-12-2003 02:52:55

*Spontaneously applauding rhythmically with other masses packed into the Festival Way Arena of Revolutionary Martyrs* Masses chanting....... &quot;Uncle Taw! Uncle Taw! Dear Leader! Dear Leader!&quot; &quot;Uncle Taw! Uncle Taw! Dear Leader! Dear Leader!&quot; &quot;Uncle Taw! Uncle Taw! Dear Leader! Dear Leader!&quot; Banners flutter proclaiming &quot;What´s Good for Tawakalna is Good for the Revolution.&quot; &quot;Dear Leader: The only voice of the people. The Voice of Democracy!&quot; &quot;Taw´s thoughts are our thoughts!&quot; &quot;Morrisons are your best for bargains!&quot; &quot;He looks good in skirts!&quot; *More mass cheering and marching abound* &quot;Ey up Taw! Ey up Taw! Ey up Taw! Ey up Taw! Ey up Taw! Fade to black as the cheering and sound of massed marching footsteps flood the sound stage. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> <img src=´http://www.auburn.edu/~vestmon/gif/xmas/xmsleigh.gif ´> Edited by - Indy11 on 24-12-2003 03:23:15

I hereby proclaim u Minister for Propaganda and Morality <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

Bah Marxist drivel only suitable for consumption by communist idealists with little foresight for the basic human compulsion of greed. In the Empire of Mustantopia the benevolent Emperor Mustang will have genetically modified ape genes to levels whereby our simian brethren are able to perform the basic functions of the poor and downtrodden. Societies poor will then be removed from their former duties and placed into a higher learning program whereby they are program......umm...taught to deal with higher duties within society. Those not responsive to the higher learning program will undergo a small operation to remove the insolent portions of the brain and returned to simian society to perform their previous tasks. Simian society will governed by the Empires circus freaks, who will be considered rulers and will be rewarded with shiny objects when production quotas are met. Higher society and those successfully achieving distinction in the higher learning program will be able to better themselves by bettering the Empire. Citizens of the Empire will be given a rank based upon their primary function and social standing, these ranks will be recorded in a computer chip implanted into the brain. Every citizen will be given a rank of recruit at birth and will only be able to advance themselves through their primary function. The citizen will choose their primary function themselves, but they must pass an interview with the board of administrators of their chosen profession. Failing an interview the citizen may contest the decision by appealing directly to the Emperor. If the citizen displays significant drinking prowess or is of the female gender and has specific abilities in areas of hotness then their application will be reconsidered. Emperor Mustang is the law, his word is final and beyond contestation. Each legal case will be brought before Emperor Mustang´s League of Judges and justice dealt with brutal and swift momentum. Defendants will be required to represent themselves as legal representation is banished within Mustantopia and is punishable by flesh eating virus. Cigarette’s, Alcohol and Red Meat will become major food groups and will be considered important to maintain a healthy life style. However, supermarkets supplying tough, grisly meat will be shutdown, burned and its employee’s brains modified and sent to live in simian society. Any chaos that ensues from Emperor Mustang’s reckless attitude towards government will be deemed the product of “Radical Extremists”. A scapegoat will be hunted down inturn, and displayed before the public during his or hers execution. All hail Emperor Mustang and his reign of Terror!!! Edited by - Mustang on 24-12-2003 04:08:14

Oh Great Leader of the Revolution! There is a foul stench coming from that imperial swineherd in Mustantopia. There also are some useful technologies employed there to better instill purity of thought and deed among our own citizens. We must send in revolutionary insurgents to form cells and to turn these mindless monarchist lackeys into comrade cadres of the Taw Way. Oh. BTW, the gadfly among us is of no concern. His voice is weak and singular. We need not concern ourselves with this Spectacle person. It is the Mustantopians that are the more direct threat.