Au revoir

    <font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>Just because you are content vamp679, does not mean that everyone else is. normally, if you had of said that around me in real life, i would have slapped you. You´re basically trying to jam your beliefs down other´s throats, believing that whatever you feel, everyone else should feel. its like telling a dog not to bark, completely against the grain. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> Ease up Love Shark, after all, he has just read everyone elses opinions about the site, and then stated his own - which he is entitled to do.....which you are having a go at him for. Its great to see a thread can be critical and constructive without resorting to flames and bashes. Please respect each others stated views, regardless of whether you disagree or agree with them.

    if he had of said &quot;yeah thats right i dont have any problems at all with TLR&quot; I would have been fine with it. but the extra &quot;why should everyone else........&quot; is what peeved me a bit. to me it shows a lack of understanding of how other people work.

    Damn mate... It was good knowing and discussing stuff with you! Still wanmt to grab a beer with me and Love Shark this month? <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

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    *Steps out of shadows* Thanks for the (predominantly) kind words people, and I´d just like to say that it is great that we have some constructive dialogue going in this thread. Keep it up, because it is discourse like this that promotes change which, I think that we can all agree, is often for the best. Take it easy everyone. Wiz - A <i>ginger </i> beer perhaps <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>. *Returns to shadows*

    <font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>if he had of said &quot;yeah thats right i dont have any problems at all with TLR&quot; I would have been fine with it. but the extra &quot;why should everyone else........&quot; is what peeved me a bit. to me it shows a lack of understanding of how other people work. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> Fair enough - agreed <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

    *to the back of esqui´s head as he skulks back to the shadow world* thanks for the welcome and the GBs when i got here. as i have little idea of what is going on i´ll stick around to see what happens or at least figure out what has happened. my question posed to any who cared to enlighten me has gone fairly much unanswered so i can only presume the wounds are still open or heads are still down. as a note on the OT i have in my relatively short time here i enjoyed some philosophical debate and found it difficult to hold a rational discussion while constantly apologising for any and all potential insult for the slightest murmer of religion or anything even slightly controversial. i just accepted that this is the way it always was here. i gather from this thread that there was a time when you were a little more free or perhaps just more mature around here. i won´t go lamenting the good old days but i am interested in seeing if this current debate helps open the OT up to a more mature level of conversation.

    Sorry to see you go Esqy,have a root beer for once for me <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

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    The way I see it: The main problem here is, that OT members have an exaggerated idea of their own importance. The Exodites believe that because they have a big post count, that TLR is somehow indebted to them. I very much doubt that any of the Exodites are heavy Freelancer players, although there are most certainly exceptions. And so, they think that, as the OT forum was were they spent their time here, that it was the main function of the site. Now, I first came here looking for a good site about FL, which is one of, if not <b>the </b> favourite game I´ve ever played. When I got here, then, I found something which far exceeded my expectations- tens of new mods being brought out every other day, and a very active FL forum. About two weeks after finding this site, I figured I´d take a look at the OT forum. It was very good, although my first posts there were utter rubbish (thank god I deleted them <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>), and so I stayed posting in OT long after I got bored of FL. But I always knew that the function of this site was Freelancer. The Exodites keep mentioning how they´ve &quot;killed the site&quot;. Look at the front page. Let´s see: Well, I can´t be bothered to count the mods, but the community seems as active as usual. So, Lancers Reactor has not changed at all. What <i>has </i> changed is the OT forum. There are <b>hundreds </b> of OT forums on the net. And many of them are just as good as this one was. One in particular I can think of is almost exactly as this one was. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> The OT forum is gone. It ain´t never comin´ back. We can debate all day whose fault it is, but there really is no point. The forum is now split in &quot;us&quot; and &quot;them&quot;, and the scars from the time of the Exodus will probably never heal. Complaining about it incessantly won´t solve anything. Now I´m not very happy about it, although I´m trying to be sitting on the fence.

    <font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>The OT forum is gone. It ain´t never comin´ back. We can debate all day whose fault it is, but there really is no point. The forum is now split in &quot;us&quot; and &quot;them&quot;, and the scars from the time of the Exodus will probably never heal. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> Look, I agree we shouldn´t debate all day whose fault it is, but we do have to work on the ´us´ and ´them´. We do want to have a good OT forum back and we don´t want the split in ´us´ and ´them´ as we are all part of the community. We all have to rethink a couple of things and focus on what we can do to improve things. All I really can and will say is that that´s exactly what we are doing with the TLR staff right now, rethink certain things and discuss how we can improve things for all of our sakes. That´s all I want to say for now, but know that we´re not turning a blind eye.

    mc, no offense to your relative young presence on the site, but you really had to be active in those days to know what they are all talking about, and Love Shark, sorry to see you go, take some of the happiness with you that you brought with your presence here, been nice talkin to ya on here, all the discussions.. also Esky, well what can I say, your presence has been dream here, a knowledgable young gentleman, always open for a good convo.. anyway, for the last time, I salute thee Komrad Esquilaxiov.. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> __________________________________________________________ Oh, dear, How sad, Never mind!!-Battery Sergeant Major Williams Locutus Moderator for <A href=´http://www.lancersreactor.org´ Target=_Blank>The Lancers Reactor</a> E-mail: dick.de.boom@quicknet.nl MSN: same Click <A href=´http://www.lancersreactor.org/t/forum/faq.asp´ Target=_Blank>here</a> for the FAQ. The forum search function is right <A href=´http://www.lancersreactor.org/t/forum/search.asp´ Target=_Blank>here</a>. <A href=´http://www.lancersreactor.org/t/´ Target=_Blank><img src=´http://www.lancersreactor.org/t/i/lan_butt.gif ´></a>

    lmao, <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> here´s a salute to comrade Viator, who changed his nick for reasons i have yet to comprehend. *salute!* p.s. my salutes are work 2 weeks more than comrade loc´s <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Edited by - kimk on 2/7/2005 6:04:45 AM

    i´ll salute to anything so long as yu keep my glass full!<img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> &quot;Beware of Geeks Bearing Gifts&quot;

    ofcourse, How could I forget comrade Viator... heres Marshall Locutov´s Salute to you Komrad Viator <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> __________________________________________________________ Oh, dear, How sad, Never mind!!-Battery Sergeant Major Williams Locutus Moderator for <A href=´http://www.lancersreactor.org´ Target=_Blank>The Lancers Reactor</a> E-mail: dick.de.boom@quicknet.nl MSN: same Click <A href=´http://www.lancersreactor.org/t/forum/faq.asp´ Target=_Blank>here</a> for the FAQ. The forum search function is right <A href=´http://www.lancersreactor.org/t/forum/search.asp´ Target=_Blank>here</a>. <A href=´http://www.lancersreactor.org/t/´ Target=_Blank><img src=´http://www.lancersreactor.org/t/i/lan_butt.gif ´></a>