Despression

Personal expereance - Depression, can be caused by a lot of things. Situations, lost love, chemical, stress. It is real and has to be delt with. Pastor, Rabbi, Teacher, anyone not connected with the situation to talk to helps. Depression, left unchecked, can lead to worse things. For you doubters, it can and does lead to suicide or suicide attempts. False help, those that through little platitudes to you, can do more harm than good. Talk to an adult, look at you life, the things that have been happening, to either isolate a cause or to elminate one. Not an easy thing to deal with.

Thanks FD, im glad to have your advice. My life is a really odd one. I guess some of it could go back to primary school and how problems there have caused problems now. Also some unresolved things with a certain man who came close to ruining my life. My problem is i cant go into a curch and talk with a priest or rabbi, and all my teachers and parents are involved... i cant think of a uninvolved person. I guess this is why i talk on these forums, i only know wilde. Edited by - DSQrn on 2/25/2005 5:27:40 PM

DSQrn, if this is beginning to worry you, it is time to get <b>professional </b> help. Depression can be treated, is often played down by laymen (which causes proper treatment to get delayed) and is a potentially fatal danger. Trust me, I know what I´m talking about. Yes, I have been through it, and still am fighting with it - I´m currently dealing with a depression that has grown since about 20 years. The sooner you get help, the better. And it´s important that you get help from a <b>professional </b> - laymen, even if they are friends - tend to make things worse. It´s a question of professional skills and the proper distance. Edited by - LXP on 2/25/2005 5:43:31 PM

Oh i probably should but i hate talking to people who see me as a source of income not a person with problems

&gt; Oh i probably should but i hate talking to people who see me as a source of income &gt; not a person with problems I had the same line of thinking - no good. Let´s put it the other way around - treating a depression is something that easily takes a lot of time - that much, actually, that someone <b>not </b> getting paid for it in most cases can´t spare the time to do it properly. And it requires real skill. I´m not saying I wouldn´t kick a therapist who rips me off. I´m saying a friend mostly lacks the competence and the resources to deal with a depression properly. And a <b>good </b> therapist <b>will </b> primarily see you as a person with problems. And also I´m not saying you should <b>not </b> talk to friends about your depression - you will need both, in fact. But friends alone cannot deal with true depression - my experience. Edited by - LXP on 2/25/2005 5:57:41 PM

Oh i hope so... *sigh* Drinking buds cant help always...I guess i should keep a open mind and give it a twirl

And no, booze doesn´t help at all - au contraire, monsieur.

Yeah but it makes me feel better. *sigh* few things do help... and the music i listen to just depresses me even more this is the swong that i listen to when i feel bad <A href=´http://http://lyrics.rare-lyrics.com/I/Iced-Earth/I-Died-For-You.html/mydir´ Target=_Blank> music </a>

&gt; few things do help... Well, you´re still lucky if there are still things that help. Do those, then. &gt; and the music i listen to just depresses me even more Time to listen to something else.

Cant i love my music.... but it is a good good idea. and i guess i should do those things hehe

It is possible, to talk to a Rabbi or paster, with out religion being involved, mearly as an outsider. But, depending on your age, professional help may have to com through your school, ie guidence counselor and there recomendation for someone higher. Don´t know the size of your family, but what about a grandparent or aunt/uncle?

DSQrn : Sounds better. Of course you can love your music - but not every flavor of music is good to hear at any time, right? Edited by - LXP on 2/25/2005 6:28:52 PM

Hmmm i have been trying to get in touch with my uncles... they are the best to help. my aunt is coming this weekend, she is great and fun but to much like my dad. LXP: you make good sense but there is one prob i only like dark metal... Edited by - DSQrn on 2/25/2005 6:29:36 PM

&gt; she is great and fun but to much like my dad In how far?

Same Older wiser Feeling, my uncles are tumble around guys like me and we can have deep conversations really well. Besides i cant tell my dad or aunt im drinking and am depressed and some other personal stuff.

&gt; you make good sense but there is one prob i only like dark metal... Well, you´re bright and open minded, right? Sounds like a good opportunity to try something else. &gt; Besides i cant tell my dad or aunt im drinking and am depressed and some other &gt; personal stuff. That, among other aspects, is what I meant by ´a lack of distance´. But why do you think you cannot tell them about your trouble? Edited by - LXP on 2/25/2005 6:45:14 PM

Well the other stuff i have tasted and liked is jazz and blues and i can tell you not uplifting.... there are some good songs that arent depressing and are uplifting but i cant find them...

Wilde Lex plex (alex) would be good to chat with... Mr.f is to school related and i can tell you many many of my problems are school related... one thing would really help is if i could track down Mike and tell him how i feel and what he has done to me.