This is just my humble opinion, but I think Genndy Tartakovsky´s animated Clone Wars - shown back to back - was far superior to this ´movie´. The Clone Troopers were the coolest aspect of this prequel trilogy did not see enough action! The Jedis bore me to death (ooh look at me I´m a ripoff of some Shaolin monk/Knights Templar crossover and I have shiny blades - a critic advised if I wanted to pee, go in the middle of a lightsabre duel, they´d still be at it when I returned - and she was right!)- I wanted to see more Clones and Droids duking it out, which Lucas failed to deliver, while Tartakovsky did!
Who´s seen Episode III? **Contains mild spoilers**
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I´ve never seen that series, but have heard it was bad and each show wa sno longer than 5 minutes? Please confirm.
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A bit on Palpatine done by Ian McDiarmid and can be seen at http://www.starwars.com PALPATINE´S POINT OF VIEW Evil presents itself in many forms, and sometimes well-intended actions can twist even the greatest of heroes into the very monsters they´ve sworn to destroy, as seen with Anakin Skywalker´s emotional fall in Revenge of the Sith, now in theaters. Actor Ian McDiarmid recently commented on his complex character as Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidious, who has an impressive talent for turning hopeful, young Jedi like Anakin into tormented souls dominated by their own fears. "He has a black irredeemable heart," McDiarmid says of Palpatine. "There´s nothing that can be said about him that´s good. When we first saw Vader in the original trilogy we thought he was the heart of darkness, and nobody could be darker. But now we understand what happened to him. And one of the exciting things about seeing this movie is that you can follow Vader through Anakin´s journey every step of the way even if you don´t agree with the choices he´s making. In partm his decisions stem from his traumatic childhood, and his impatient lust for power. And it´s that which my character takes and then uses again him." "When you´re playing a character of solid blackness, that in itself is very interesting, in the sense that you have no other motivation other than the accumulation of power," McDiarmid continues. "It´s not so much about not having a moral center, it´s just that the only thing that mattered is increasing power." Yet even though Palpatine represents a truly evil character, McDiarmid still attempted to seek out his human side, however faint it may have been. "I´ve been trying to find a redeeming feature to Palpatine, and the only one I´ve got so far is that he´s clearly a patron of the arts because he goes to the opera," McDiarmid laughs. "Originally, that was a scene in the office and George [Lucas thought a change of location would be better, so he decided on the theater, and Hayden and I agreed immediately. Watching a play while talking to each other quietly in a box is a terrific additional bonus. Because you can always take your face away quite naturally and appear to be watching the play while other things are going on in your head. Hayden had hoped the play would be Hamlet, and we´d be watching a play within a play within a play." As he prepared for a larger role in Revenge of the Sith, McDiarmid noticed comparable references in not only other films and literature, but also historical moments where the lure of extreme political domination wreaked havoc across nations. "The interesting thing about these movies is that they refer back to lots of cinematic influences," McDiarmid explains. "When my face changes in the film, my mind went back to the early silent movie of The Phantom of the Opera with Lon Chaney. In Revenge of the Sith, Anakin makes a Faustian pact with the devil, and I do everything I can to use him as raw material in every sense to become the best apprentice yet. So even when he´s horribly savaged from the fight and it´s not clear if he´ll live, he´s reborn as this Frankenstein monster. Sidious then realizes Vader will be an even greater asset because his humanity has been mechanized, which is exactly what happens to people when they are seduced by Fascism."
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Finally saw it today, and afterwards, I have mixed emotions. The beginning sequences (ie the first hour) were wonderful, and filled with comic relief. There were many moments (Dooku´s death, Windu´s death, etc) when I just wanted to stand up and say "No! No! No! Don´t do it!" It was infinately frustrating to see Anakin do those things, especially slaughter the children that admired him so much. The most gratifying aspect of this film was seeing the gallons of foreshadowing dumped on my head, and watching the setup for Ep4 develop so well. After seeing this, many of my friends piled in their cars and raced home to watch A New Hope, and find out "what happens next." It was fun to watch, knowing the events that would have to happen to tie the movies together, and to make the connections, trying constantly to predict what would happen next to make the puzzle fit together. Now after this, I think i´ll turn to my legos again, and see what masterful creations I can drum up. Keep your eyes peeled for another lego thread in the next couple weeks, folks. <A href=´http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v322/sarafijdawg/legoguy.JPG´ Target=_Blank><img src=´http://img78.photobucket.com/a…2/sarafijdawg/legoguy.jpg ´></a>
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<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>CONSTRUCTION ON THE SECOND DEATHSTAR BEGAN 2 YEARS AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE FIRST ONE BEGAN!!!! <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> Yeah, you can repeat bullcrap as much as you like, it doesnt change established <A href=´http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/deathstarii/index.html´ Target=_Blank>fact</a> -arc
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True, the second Death Star was begun after the destruction of the first. Note the fixed design flaw in the exhast port. I thought the movie was great. Some corny sceens, but the space combat was good. The Clones were cool, and the jedi purge was well done.
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Worst moment in the film anyone? I have to say some of Padme´s scenes. She acted quite well in Ep 2, I dont know what happened here.
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worst moments? beginning, middle, and end. good Pearl & Dean though!
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For those neigh sayers, it now has tied with Superman in the fastest to reach $200 million An afful lot of people seemed to like it. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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lots of people liked Hitler too. what´s your point? popularity is not necessarily (and in my experience usually isn´t) any indicator of quality, is it? lowest common denominator, and all that...
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Popularity is a indicator indeed. A designer, no mater the quality, will drop a product if it does not sell. Nor would people shell out money for a movie thats no good. The neigh syaers will always be against an idea, design, product and thats thier right. No one makes them buy it , use it, or go see it. Even in your world, the tech world, look around and see how many people buy something because its popular, not because its well made, durable and all. The same with games, there are those that have good graphics, but the story sucks, yet it is popular, and one that hits close to your home, Harry Potter. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Edited by - Cortana on 5/30/2005 10:02:22 AM
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The shuttle used to carry Anakin/Darth Vader to get his armor looked an awful lot like a Defender...anyone else agree?
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<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>For those neigh sayers, it now has tied with Superman in the fastest to reach $200 million An afful lot of people seemed to like it. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> "Neigh" sayers? You mean horses? Or naysayers? Or both? Are you calling the people who don´t like the move horses?! That would be very bad form. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_disapprove.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> And "an afful lot of people"? More like "a lot of awful people". As for that last linguistic travesty, I´m having some trouble making head or tail of your point. I think you´re saying that if something sucks it won´t be successful. But then this <i>"Even in your world, the tech world, look around and see how many people buy something because its popular, not because its well made, durable and all." </i> comes along and destroys that thesis (I think). So I´m baffled. If that was your objective, well, congratulations. You win. Edited by - Aliens! Aaaah, aliens! on 5/30/2005 10:19:19 AM
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Don´t know who you are alien, though I imagine young. As to my spelling, I have a bit of the flu right now, and my intrest in acuracy of spelling is at the bottom of the list of priorities. No one persons opinion is going to be right, though you seem to be of the school of though that only one can be. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> My noteing is based on capitalism, where popularity is indeed how a company is measured. Weather they produce a profit or not. In my line of work, Apartment industry, you must show the owners a good bottom line, To get it, you have to keep the apartments filled and it takes whats popular to do it. All this said, there are days to just argree to disagree. <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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I hate that Harry Botter rubbish too. bl**dy cr*p.
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Aha. Ahaha. Ahahahahahaaaahahahahaaahahahaaaahahaahahaaaahahahaaaahahaaa..! etc. Come on, C. Don´t feed me that. Unless I´m much mistaken - and I´m not - *you´re* the one who first attacked those with a different opinion. Granted it was a clumsy "well lots of other people liked it" move, but still. Don´t presume to lecture me about letting people have their own opinions when YOU yourself won´t do the very same thing. This Tawhatever guy doesn´t like the movie. Why must you try to convince him that he should? Or am I misreading your actions? If all you´re doing is taking the piss out of the guy then, well, ignore me and my self-righteous rantings. Hell, ignore them regardless, what do I know anyway?
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he can take the p*ss out of me if he likes, it´s fun; I really don´t mind. After all, not much else goes on around here these days <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Okay. I´ll go sit in the corner now...
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Being a Starwars fan (aren´t we all?), and with Starwars pretty much dominating my young childhood imagination... I was looking forward to this film, just like I did with the others. Sad to say, I was disappointed. The technology was available to realise his dream of making these three films - and he took it; however, the script was ignored. He made mention during the making of the movie that he was writing the script as he went along; That was the problem. Usually you would have a completed script - and re-write it as necessary... but in this instance it appears that as he found out exactly the capabilties of the CGI to recognise his dream, he would apply the script to the film instead. He should have stuck with his visual masterpiece - which he is very good at, and let someone else write the scripting. With a decent script for everyone to work with, I am sure his directorial ability would have picked up as well, although this may have been mired by his love for the CGI. Instead of focusing upon how to direct it, he was just ensuring people said their lines in the right space for the CGI backgrounds he envisaged to be applied... which is what he was concentrating upon. *edit* As an addition, Lucas had a terrific plot - the fall of Anakin, as the chosen one, to the dark side. He instead tried to incorporate far too much... He should have concentrated upon Anakin, his relation with Padme, Palpatine and the Jedi Council in much greated depth - given it some real substance. There was no need to follow Obi Wan on his jaunt after General Grievous, nor Yoda on his Wookie tour; it should have focused soley upon Anakin/Vader. Edited by - Spanner Monkey on 5/30/2005 12:26:10 PM
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<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>There was no need to follow Obi Wan on his jaunt after General Grievous, nor Yoda on his Wookie tour; it should have focused soley upon Anakin/Vader. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2>exactly, there was no need for either of those scenes except maybe to have the two jedi off corruscant when order 66 came into play. Even so, there are better ways of having the two survive. Having greivous survive the opening battle then meander off to a pointless planet only to move the seperatist leaders to ANOTHER pointless planet and he dies. why NOT instead just have greivous die at the hand of obi wan on the spaceship and dooku fights anakin? we could have had cool cuts between the two battles. if dooku planned to capture the jedi, it would makde sense to do it by splitting them up. with split up jedi, there was no one to stop palpatine from influencing anakin to lop his head off. obi wans early exit from that battle was terrible. both the baddies should then die and the seperatists are thrown into turmoil. Needing to re-form, the leaders retreat to that mustafar planet. palpatine refuses to return power and anakin is seduced. the movie is marred by too much planet hopping, characters introduced for 20 seconds just to sell a new toy. if lucas made the story up as he went along it seems clear that he had an idea about the beginning and the end and didnt really have a way to link them together. -arc