I´m gonna get bashed for this, but: X2 Problem

Oh, don´t listen to the rabbit head over there <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Well, just try to find any odd shipyard (There´s one in Argon Prime, also in the main race systems). I think you can also repair it at an &quot;Equipment Bay&quot; (although, I´m not sure if it´s called that. I only got the german version <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> ). <b>Your posts are <i>SPAM </i>. My posts are <i>WISDOM SPEECHES </i>. </b>

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>because some tool stole my reg key, and my game came WITHOUT a manual <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> Well Pinky, are you thinking what I´m thinking? <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

Someone stole your reg key and the game came without a manual? How do you steal a reg key? I thought they would only work on one CD only? Mine has the protection key on the CD´s and manual, but only the manual has the registration key. My suggestion is to go to the Egosoft forums, and contact &quot;The Abyss&quot; - he sorts out these types of issues with users having difficulties etc. Should have tried that first to be honest <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> You also don´t need to validate your game to register on the site - you just cannot access the technical help forums or the downloads (but can access the rest). As for repair - shipyard and then select trade with station. Right at top, percentage of hull is there - using arrow keys (right) up to max (can cost alot dependant upon ship type). The opposite way will ask if you want to sell the ship I think (from memory). *edit* - out of curiosity - where did you buy your game then? Edited by - Chips on 9/29/2005 5:45:00 AM

has Jask been naughty? tut-tut-tut..<img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

I have a picture of me and the actual regkey (for the X2 website, not the game, that key actually works) And i found out how to repair ships, now im trying to figure out how to sell a freakin ship. And Chips: i need to access the downloads in order to get a manual. bear with this rather bewildered X2 Player. (you cant compare X2 and FL. never ever. X2 is simulation, precise to most details, while FL is almost pure arcade style. ah well, that´s probably been said before) -:- You Wanna Revolution?

I think any question on any space game should be welcome here. Especially in the OT.

In the description of the Off Topic Forum some admin <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> says &quot;Yes that means you can discuss other games.&quot; Off Topic &quot;This is where you can discuss your homework, family, just about anything, make strange sounds and otherwise discuss things which are really not related to the Lancer-series. Yes that means you can discuss other games.&quot;

Q.E.D. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

Seriously - contact The Abyss for access to the site. As for selling ships - you either need a trading extension installed on the ship you are piloting - or you need to be landed at the same shipyard that the ship you wish to sell is landed at... The ship you sell must be at a shipyard, you can either: Select the station on the system map that its docked at, select trade with station and sell the ship: Or Land on same station, select trade with station, and then sell the ship. Ships to be sold will be the same as to repair - appear right at the top with hull percentage in white. It maybe two sections, one for repair - and jsut below it, the price if you sell. Try the ones below (its been a while since I played). Edited by - Chips on 9/29/2005 7:35:30 AM

I gave up on actually trying to sell the damn Argon Mercury, so I just started again and got a Boron Mako after mission 2. any recommendations for equipment? -:- You Wanna Revolution?

Ohhh... doh! The mercury is useful to trade with - once you get the controls going it would be fine. The Mako is an okay M4, but fighting may prove tough. The best thing I can recommend is a strafe drive, but knowing just how little of the universe you already know... it may take some exploring to find stuff. Unless of course you visit the best X2 resources site on the net - the <A href=´http://argonopedia.ppcis.org/sectors.php´ Target=_Blank>Argonopedia...</a>. Now that is one informative site! Check out sectors, weapons etc for all the useful info. Combat can be tough, some things you will need include to turn on your &quot;trailing&quot; site - which you may have already done. Its toggled with the K key I think it was - two blue dashes (or red, forgotten colour) is the best setting (keep pressing button looking at Hud, you´ll spot what I mean as they come on!). The next big thing for you would be a strafe drive. These suckers are expensive when you first start out, but by christ - strafe means <i>strafe </i>. The ´pedia´ will show which equip stations sell em (I think its split, but not sure - maybe boron, dunno - forgot!). Its either the right hand ctrl or alt button - hold it down, and move the mouse up/down/left/right - the more you move it whilst holding it down - the more strafe you´ll get! Its <i>very </i> useful, nay - necessary - to dodge incoming fire effectively. Get on someones butt and then shoot em - if they have a turret and start firing - strafe out the way whilst keeping on shooting them. You can strafe in circles to make them miss near constantly. A ship with a rear turret is also a good choice (for future ref) - because you can set the turret command to act as &quot;missile defence&quot; (as long as you have bought combat controls, if you don´t have a rear turret - then don´t bother with these to be honest!). They will shoot down incoming missiles, arm it with a light weapon - or heavy if you prefer (it will suck energy if you put on the best, but then again, it can also kill ships if powerful enough). Ships that can mount a PSG on a rear turret are awesome - they kill ships really easily (and missiles). Sadly, PSG´s have a huge fire radius - so you will piss off ALOT of locals. For a player ship, apart from the trading extension - you won´t need the software for trading (as in trading Mk I) because your flying it, or combat Mk I or II unless you have a turret. You only need these for your ships you <i>don´t </i> fly, as those software will enable commands to make em trade for you <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>. Speed extensions are a must, very useful (as are handling). Don´t plonk all your cash on them though, because you may not be in that Mako long enough - that I can garuntee! Cargo extensions - only buy on fighters if you intend to do the odd trading mission/cargo carrying mission, don´t bother on cargo ships because it can cost half a mil to max out the cargo bay - which just isn´t worth it. Cheap dolphins are the best - they are slowish (126 max speed) but only take a few upgrades to make them that quick. They come with 2k cargo space though - loadsa money! Quick tip on docking - hit Esc when you fly through the main dock entrance and the door opens inside to say &quot;the &lt;gove name here&gt; welcomes you aboard&quot; it makes you appear inside the docking bays instantly - no flying around. I usually use my Nav software to dock for me - because you can do it on SETA (so making it lightning quick instead of poncing around in space - time is money!). Taking on M5´s should be okay (smallest fighters) or other M4´s once you get used to fighting. Unless you are skilled, forget taking on M3´s - they have between 50-75k shields, and your weapons just won´t make any damage in a Mako. You may actually be better off trying to capture a pirates Bayamon, as a Bayamon can mount ION D´s!!! Why? Because although the bayamon has small shields, its fast, nimble - and best yet - mounts awesome firepower. The Ion cannons take down shields on ships in seconds (may also harm friendly ships as its &quot;lighting&quot; and jumps all over the place, so be careful). Swap the guns out and use a laser or something to take down the hull. Quick killing <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Note on <b>capturing </b> ships (excellent source of income) - its been found that if you damage a ships hull to just 87% (or below), then (as long as its a fighter) you can keep taking their shields down with Ions, eventually they will &quot;bail&quot;, and leave you a ship. Unfort the ions may also fry off any weapons/shields they may have had on board, but still - ships cost alot when you first start out. With a Mako you´ll have a hard time trying to capture anything to be honest, but a bayamon (with pratice) will have you capping M3´s - but you MUST have that strafe drive! Pirate ships - including their rather lame M3 are excellent ships to cap (especially their M3!), as they can be sold and are in plentiful supply. Just take your time - it may take 5 mins to catch one, but once you get that M3 (worth around 400k if in good condition), you can make bucks FAST! If you buy/capture a new ship - swap the equipment across to your new ship. You can do this by being docked at the same station, then going into the sector map, select the station, select docked ships, select your old ship - and then &quot;transfer cargo&quot;. You may also be able to transfer cargo from the normal &quot;docked&quot; screen - but its been so long since I flew my ships I can´t remember if you can (I sit wayyyy out in another sector onboard my capship, and direct my 250+ TS and 80+ stations at distance, hence why I am having trouble remembering how to do things <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>). Holy moly, I am dribbling on a bit! My suggestion, strafe drive - then try and cap a Bayamon (be careful, always save regularly and ensure your &quot;autosave when docking&quot; is enabled - its INVALUABLE!). You may die a few times, and mind they don´t ram you! Once done, get an Ion or two on that bayamon (with two other hull damaging weapons on the other two slots), mount its max shield size (buy 5k´s down in Elena´s Fortune), and get capping pirate ships. Flog em, or use em (but upgrade their speed if you do) as cargo ships. When you have cargo ships, buy full speed upgrades - but NOT hull (its too expensive to do cargo upgrades). Buy nav and trade software and then set em to trading around a bit. Using navsats in sectors, you can find silicon mines that are nearly full (so dead cheap to buy), and there is always somewhere buying for near max price within 5 jumps. You can make a fortune (around 80k+) in profit if you find this. If you don´t buy a station (recommend Solar Power Plant as first, second and third stations in different sectors), then when you <i>do </i> get enough money - I would suggest either a mercury of dolphin - FULLY LOADED. Yeah, it will cost 750k at least, but thats not the half of it. Buy Mk III trading software (500k), full upgrades for speed and manouverablity, a weak turret on the rear (for defence) with full trading, navigation and combat software. Now set it to a sector trader (best is split capital system, it is quick to level 8). Once it hits level 8 you want to plonk a jumpdrive in it (buyable at Goner base or Home of Light´s Terracorp headquarters). Then set it to universe trader. One of mine has made around 70million credits in 5-10 playing days. I now have 14, and they make more money per hour than my 80 stations!!! They do cost nearly 2mil to set up though... but once they are off, they will buy their own drones for defence (they need them), and take care of themselves. Stick with your Bayamon if you get one, if not - the next fighter you should buy is the Argon M3 (Nova) - it is perfect, and cap easily whoop many a ship (it mounts ions to, and has a turret). The best weapons are PSG´s - phase shockwave generators - but they are indiscriminate (they fire a kinda visible shockwave - which &quot;radiates&quot; out in circles infront of you for a massive hit area - and if anything is infront of you about 1k away, it will get hit - including friendlys). The PSG´s are by far the most deadly weapons, you can take down M2´s with an M6 no sweat. Pirate ships can mount one on their rear turret, so be careful - because if you meet one - you´ll be toast (its very rare). Now I will shut up, I´ve written another 1000 words...

*sigh* X2 - i would like to love this game - but ... I know Chips is an expert on X2. But read his post above explaining how such a simple thing like selling a ship works in X2. Complicated. I started X2 several times and tried several things. My problem was/is not that I do not have the patience or the will to build up. But as I do not play such games with cheats or walkthroughs how should I know that (e.g.) I need the special trader software you have to achieve early in the game at the single place to get it; later you will get your *** kicked because they do not love you there anymore. OK, this is not a ´how do you like X2?´-thread, so I shut up. Hope that the Design of Usability will be better in X3 (coming soon)

I hear the interface is about 100 times simpler and more userfriendly/easy to navigate in X3. It took some time learning the shortcuts, but once you do - it takes about 0.5 secs to get to any screen (it takes a sad mans practice of quick fingers to learn though). However, it wasn´t all roses. When I first got to X2 - I did what most people do... I got fustrated, annoyed and bored by the pace of the game. It was only after I had played it for a full 24 hours (1 game day on present game) that I started to really enjoy and appreciate it. Its just tough starting out (I ignored the storyline asap!), especially since you cannot really kill anything in the starting ship because you die so easily... and you cannot mine because you need to buy equipment that costs about 100k to do so (mineral scanner, mining lasers, scoop and a ship that can mount the laser!). Effectivelly all you can do is trade - which is fine until you realise you cannot see the buy price for items until you land there (unless you have a trading extension - which costs alot of money! ARGH!). So its very tough on the beginner - very tough, fustrating and monotonous. This I personally think is the single biggest issue - because it disheartens new players, and in the day and age of FPS speed/action - a slow start is not going to win much affection. I actually played it for about 4 hours, and then didn´t touch it again for 2 months... before finally going back and getting completely addicted. I do not know if it will be any easier to start in X3... it takes experience to be able to start quickly, and without it your doomed to boredom and annoyance. *edit* Damned grammatical errors! Bet there are more... Edited by - Chips on 9/30/2005 3:34:23 AM

wow - what an impressive post. Gives some courage to give this *%+$´0!-X2 another try ... thanks Edited by - zazie on 9/30/2005 4:09:50 AM

My suggestion would eb to start again, but do the storyline for a few missions (gah - the cutscenes, the framerates, the dialogue! NOooooo). When you use the transporter craft (3rd mission?) - before docking to drop off your passengers after picking them up (can´t remember where you take em, is it to Terracorp? Dunno) - Dock at an equipment dock and compeltely GUT the ship. Sell the shields, sell any weapons etc that you can. Then go give it back, gets you some cash. Same for when you get given that Mercury - sell it onwards... all the capital is useful for buying upgrades or a better ship (Mako is okay as an M4). Don´t ever waste time buying M5´s though, they die if something farts near em. If you can afford it (they are 2k or so) buy navigation satellites. Drop them in the CENTRE of each system around Argon Prime - and make sure your ship has a trading extension installed. This will allow you to see the prices of objects in those sectors (if my mind isn´t playing tricks on me). You´ll need about 36-40k to do this, but it means you can then be in any system, and find out the prices of objects for sale on those bases, as well as how much stock they have of their resources (and the price they will buy them at). That is very important if you want to trade - you can see which Solar Power Plant has a good stock, and which stations NEED stock. If you keep the TS (Mercury) when you´re given it, you will be able to direct (or fly it yourself) from Solar Power Plant to a station that needs em - making a tidy profit. Unfort for my first few hours I was flying around without any direction, hence fustration. Once you get into an okay ship/better ship - capturing is a damned fine way of making money - just don´t forget to save. All you need is your target to ram you (which they seem to do with alarming frequency) and your toast. If you keep going with the storyline, later on you get loaned another craft (worth a bit more moola). Do the same, sell the stuff up (its a long way forward in the game, but I missed this opportunity - its worth quite a bit of cash!). Edited by - Chips on 9/30/2005 4:36:55 AM

I must admit X2 is very intimidating at first, and quite hard to get into. I keep wanting to start over, so i can better invest my money. I wanted to see where the storyline went so thats why i went with a fighter rather than a trader. But I realise that the meat of the game is in the factory management and such. If the interface were easier, and it was a tad easier to start up I would be a lot happier (but probably a lot more bored of it) And I did resolve my internet registration issue. The Abbyss was the one to talk to. -:- You Wanna Revolution?

I´d avoid starting over to better invest, you´ve got an M4 - which is when my game picked up alot (as it can actually kill things yay!). You can do some good missions with that, both kill and deliver an item. You can combine them, accepting a deliver mission (check how long you get though) and then a kill mission (because if its a long time, you can have a fight on the way <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>). Just incase: 1 Mizura = 2.7 mins (or so it says) 1 Stazura = 4.3 hours 1 Tazura = 1.2 days! Taxi missions (although they appear to pay peanuts) can be good. They are fast, and the payment increases (at my current rank, the first stop pays 100k, the second may pay upto 150k, third up to 200k - rising up to half a million to take em across one system!). So if it says 50credits, it may be 7 legs paying between 50-100 credits per leg... and it only takes a few mins (these are done in an M5, which you may still have from your missions at the beginning). These will boost your traders rank (and therefore money you can make in traders missions). Whatever you choose to do, your rank will increase - and fighting missions will help increase fighting rank quickly. The more rank, the more money - mine are 2mil per kill mission (apparently they go up to 26mil per mission <img src=smilies/icon_smile_clown.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Just don´t forget to save BEFORE you accept them <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>I have a picture of me and the actual regkey <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> do you know how weird that sounds? lol <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>