We've just seen a UFO! No bull!

    yes FD that's right it could have been a weather balloon.. yep



    so when the alien invasion fleets are hovering over your shack in the backwoods, beaming up humans en masse to implant alien embryos in, you can make yourself feel better by chanting


    "it could be a weather balloon, it could be a weather balloon, ouch that hurts, it could be a weather balloon, please don't put that horrible insect thing inside me, oh god nooooo aaaaarrrgggggghhhhh!"


    At the time I checked what we'd seen against similar sightings that had been reported in Bretonia and I was rather surprised at just how common these "chinese lantern" phenomena are! Folk have been seeing these all over the show for the past couple of years, and the details of the events are remarkably in accord (I hadn't read any before, I normally dismiss UFO sightings as lies or intoxification or mistakes) NOT that I actually think that they're alien space podules, even though it's possible I suppose, but there's definitely something going on. I still think it's highly advanced top-secret military aircraft.


    And if you recall, I did say that a few weeks later we actually did see a weather balloon (cos I got the binocs out and a powerful telephoto lens on the camera) and it looked and behaved completely differently. The first thing was clearly moving against the wind under its own power; the second was drifting with the wind and clearly unpowered. I seriously doubt that the RAF or the Met Office put silent vapourless jet engines on weather balloons?

    You know very well, governments can make the balloons like like all kinds of aircraft. And they wouldn't lie. ;)

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    First off i love the air force poster above Taw -- and this link below reminded me about all the ufo's that were actually meteors


    this is about a explosion over danish and norwegian skies about a week or so ago -- you would think that this would make the " supposed real news " news casts but no !! they dont report anything anymore except their own idiot opinion and bs


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    Cotidie damnatur qui semper timet - The man who is constantly in fear is every day condemned. (Syrus)

    that was really cool. You may treat yourself to some extra hay and sugar lumps for such an excellent find.


    when Mrs Taw and I went on holiday to Iceland a while back, 'er indoors was rather flabbergasted by the aurorae and the meteors although sadly we didn't see a fireball, haven't seen one for years. Saw one once many years ago that actually boomed as it came in, like a shell going off it was.


    Unf Tawakalnistan is not particulartly suitabule for astrophenomical observatoriences, being almost constantly overcast or raining and usually far too cold and unhealthy.

    We know Taw's got gas, as it's what fires his hot air machine :D


    just don't be down wind of it though ;)

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    It must have taken him a week to make that air force poster




    And mr ed that was one of the gov.s ballons comeing down u know they use methane to fill them

    The way our Gov works I would have thought it was Hot air -- they are never in short supply of that


    Personally I know enough about science and science fiction to know that UFO's dont exist -- that the sheer ability to cross the vast expanse of interstellar space in a reasonable amount of time -- automatically grants you the ability to be non detectable to a BS fledgeling civilization such as ourselves -- antigravity alone would give you all sorts of abilities besides the ones shone on tv or mentioned in books

    Cotidie damnatur qui semper timet - The man who is constantly in fear is every day condemned. (Syrus)

    true glad we have freelancer, i love playing and exploring this game(the laws of physics all always changing in our universe)they are always finding new ways and as we learn we will find a way to the stars someday,many of the things we take for granted now days was a dream a few short years ago for some of us,for the newer generations they never had to live without these things, most kids nowadays would be lost without a computer or cell phone or ipod. i believe the creator didn't just put life here on this one planet in a universe full of systems and galaxies, even in my peoples prayers we include the sky people,and have for thousands of years,so who knows,me i'm just barely educated my self but i'm learning all the time, hope the creator lets us live to be able to see more of the Great changes that are coming ,when i was younger i use to do exploring,there are places even in oklahoma and the US that people still have'nt been.darn spell rekcehc is broke again i'm waxing philosophically again(mind wanders off somewhere,had to kick start it)well i'm back must have been all that gas from Taw haha ;)

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    UFO's dont exist


    but they do, my four-legged friend; Unidentified Flying Objects, an object moving in the sky that can't be positively identified despite expert analysis. The term is not of necessity synonymous with alien spacecraft.


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    in my peoples prayers we include the sky people


    you can't possibly say things like that YE and not give us an explanation! :)

    I'm native american and at some of the religous cerimonys that i am in, i'm what is called a firecheif ,we have a sweat ceramony were we go into a sweat lodge,it's like a prayer circle that you find in most churchs,only we don't pray for ourselves but for others,as a firecheif i start our cerimony with a fire an rocks to take into the sweat lodge and this fire is prayed apon and blessed, also the rocks are blessed it is a sacred alter, and certain medicines are put on these rocks, and i am the last one in so i close the door,some prayers are said sometimes a song,then water is put on the stones ,also when you go in you humble your self and say to all my relatives, but in your native tongue,we consider it like going back into the womb of the mother earth from which the Creator created us,when we say to all our relatives were not talking about just family but every one and everything because we are all connected to each other, in this cerimony all points of the compass have a meaning as well as up and down,and in our prayers, we ask creator to bless the many leggeds, the four leggeds,the two leggeds,the winged people, the sky people and the little people,which you have heard about in old folk lore, each aspect of these prayers are blessings,many have been handed down by mouth for thousands of years,there are even passages in the bible of wheels within wheels flying thruogh the air,so it not so far fecthed that we are not alone in the universe,man just needs to learn to communcaite and get along,and we might reach out and someday touch the stars ,there are many other things that go with this cerimony so i gave you a short ver. :D


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    well i will grant you that some UFO's exist


    -- unidentified frying objects that ive been told were meat in certain diners on the lower eastside !

    Cotidie damnatur qui semper timet - The man who is constantly in fear is every day condemned. (Syrus)

    I just reread the Rare Earth hypothesis


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    and think that they are in many ways correct -- though we shall see as nasa has just launched a planet finder telescope


    we have catalogued alot of nearby systems and what we find looks nothing like us -- we may be an oasis in the night -- I do think that there is life out there -- it may be just way scattered


    I recommend the book it discusses in length where we are in the galaxy and the importance of our moon and how protective the large gas giants and the moon is and the fact that jupiter may be a failed brown dwarf -- remember that most stars come in pairs and some tripples that single suns of our size are more the exception than the rule and this is just the tip of the iceberg

    Cotidie damnatur qui semper timet - The man who is constantly in fear is every day condemned. (Syrus)

    I'll go along with you there. Planets may well be common throughout the universe but the chances of them being life-bearing, life as we know it Jim, very slim I reckon. The Moon gives us tides and a shield against meteors, and an Earth without tides might not have evolved life at all.


    The there's Earth's radioactivity, very important for random mutations.


    And the narrowness of the biosphere zone around the Sun to support life at all.


    Plus you rightly point out that Jupiter may well be a star that didn't form. Two stars in one system might have made life impossible or at least retard its evolution.


    Personally I don't think that we're alone in the universe, but we might be, and if we aren't then we might as well be, because anything else is a long, long way away. there's prob stacks of living stuff out there but how much of it is likely to be sentient?


    Having said that though we should still build a fleet of orbital battlecruisers just to be on the safe side in case an alien war-fleet turns up. Green comet? hmph, it's obviously the braking maneouvre of an interstellar scout powered by a Mark IV plasma drive.

    The Moon dosent just give us Tides my Mullah Friend -- It stabilizes our very rotation and tilt giving us the seasons and the very very stable climate that has allowed life to form and prosper -- one of the theories proposed in the book i recommended previous post is that for a planet to generate civilized life it may require a Large moon and ours is the largest in the system ( i think ) in fact some astro types refer to earth as a binary planet system earth / moon


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    This is a long ( 52 min ) but fascinating Documentary narrated by Captain Picard himself ( Patrick Stewart " from henceforth let all of the toliets in England be named John " )

    Cotidie damnatur qui semper timet - The man who is constantly in fear is every day condemned. (Syrus)

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    It stabilizes our very rotation and tilt giving us the seasons and the very very stable climate that has allowed life to form and prosper


    I knew that, I just couldn't be bothered to type it all out of The Big Book of How Everything Works... without the Moon acting as a brake to the Earth's rotation, days would be much shorter and the resulting winds would terrible (even worse than FD after a skunk sandwich)

    i wish my ver. was shorter to besides i think your both a bit wobbly sort of like our planet :mrgreen:And i resent the john remark, for that you get skunk weed and burrs in your feed tonight mReD (note to self no skunk weed this horse already crazy but the burrs make good ruffage)no reading my mind now ;)

    The quote is from the end of the Mel Brooks Movie " Men in Tights " its an allusion to the legend that the reason toilets are called johns is due to the bad usper Prince John -- in the robin hood stories

    Cotidie damnatur qui semper timet - The man who is constantly in fear is every day condemned. (Syrus)