Considering that Sl contains some very poor accents <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> (not all of them, but most) it doesn´t surprise me that there are some poor choices for names, but come on you´re picking at stuff that should be left alone. There´s nothing wrong with Flying Tigers, they were a crack squad of pilots which is what the 45th turns out to be (albeit you are the only good pilot in the group). As for the Vampires, its a name like any other, its not a crack at Transylvania. If there had been an Indian squadron entitled the Bengals would you be wondering about that as well? The only true crack at SL you might have concerning the names might be the Ronin. If it means what you says it does then that probably would be a bad name for a Japanese squad but the designers of SL probably didn´t know exactly what it meant they just figured it meant Samurai. At any rate, I don´t think this is a point worth making. "It don´t make no difference whether their flying Basilisks or garbage scows, they still look ugly!"
Noticed some... oddities...
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kschang , you gave the entire storyline behind the word Ronin, but the word is most widely used as another name for Hitman, hired killer, it´s someone that kills for money ----------------------- Mad Dog <img src=´http://www.nukevillage.com/cgi…vatar/custom/00000002.jpg ´> United SL Modelers¸ "Is it meant to be that BIG?!" ~my girlfiend~ Administrator for <A href=´http://www.nukevillage.com/´ Target=_Blank>Nuke Village</a>
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vampires is ok i suppose. The flying tigers were not named after the fact that they shot down japaneese, but the attitude of never say die etc. ronin (as MD said) and russian black guard, i think theyve moved on since red and white, this is the 24th century now. Arcon ------ Archie is NOT f*cking Mr. Weatherbee! - Banky, Chasing Amy(1997)
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The ´Black Guard´ is also spelt wrong in russian. Not to mention the CapShip names.
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Well, at least they got the Kanji in the Yamato briefing room right.
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I remember why Vampires sounds wrong to me. In the current military jargon, a "vampire" is usually used to denote incoming cruise missiles aimming at your task group. I think it´s used in Tom Clancy´s Red Storm Rising. It´s something you want to shoot down, not a good squadron name. As for the Flying Tigers... I looked it up. The local Chinese named the entire AVG Flying Tiger Group (Fay-Hu-Duay). Their original squadron names were much less auspicious (they had THREE squadrons total). Yes, it´s nitpicking, but then, I´m the guy who find problems in Tom Clancy novels.
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Did any of you pay attention to the movie during the Alliance News broadcast?? The Flying Tigers were a German fighter Squadron, and if you bother to look at the short black and white movie that is a BF109 Fighter plane, wich is rather German. And since Claus Stiener came up with the name,that is the link since he is German. DSA Squadron Commander <A href=´http://ls3k.com/dsa/forum/default.asp´ Target=_Blank>Dying Star Alliance</a>
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The P40 does look a lot like a Bf109 in certain angles, but it´s bigger... I´ll have to look over that footage again. Come to think of it, I can´t think of ANY current US squadrons that´s named the Vampires. I don´t know what the Luftwaffe call their squadrons though.
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Striker: Yeah, I had to nitpick Clancy´s knowledge of Chinese.
In Executive Orders, he mixed up the national airlines of China and Taiwan. For the record, China Airlines is from Taiwan, and Air China is from China. In the book, an Air China airliner was shot with a missile during an air battle between China and Taiwan and crash landed at Taipei International airport, and it was Taiwan government voicing vociferous complaint. Did he get it backwards? You decide. In the Bear and the Dragon, he had those high commie officials in Beijing saying Cantonese swearwords (which no Beijing guy would ever use). It´s as if he picked some words out of "Alternative Chinese Dictionary" and decided I´ll throw some in for flavor. It may fool you Yanks 
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wow, u guys need a hobby Arcon ------ Archie is NOT f*cking Mr. Weatherbee! - Banky, Chasing Amy(1997)
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dudes, dudes, dudes, Transylvania is in modernday Hungary and it´s the 22:nd century in Starlancer. Onwards to Tommy C, a great writer, a binding storyteller and of course, a yank. "The Bear" is a nice book, but I don´t think that the russian T-55s (From the reserve divition, the one the border guard Lt. was placed in) would have massacered the Chinese T-80Us and T-99s as they did, they are after all 50 years old. And Tom always have a style of the good guys making it without any loss, in the whole book "Executive orders" there was like 10 american casualtys in the ground war (not counting the losses at Palm Bowl or Storm Track, the saudi one), I know that the US Army is good, but noone´s that good! Spear - Me want fish!
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what, dont be rediculous, the US army is utter sh!te...FACT! in the gulf war they killed 9 british soldiers by accident (friendly fire isn´t) they think theyre the best becasue they have all the latest technology. China has the largest army and Britain has the best trained army, hands down. ok so the yanks have a reasonably well put together crew but theyre not what they (or my clancy) have set them up as. Arcon ------ Archie is NOT f*cking Mr. Weatherbee! - Banky, Chasing Amy(1997)
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That´s why in the Gulf War the Spearhead in the ground offense were Brits and Foreign Legionaires. The US war machine war riding behind them. DSA Squadron Commander <A href=´http://ls3k.com/dsa/forum/default.asp´ Target=_Blank>Dying Star Alliance</a>
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Boys, boys, boys, you all know that the Israeli Army is the best, so why even try to act as if you ´ve got anything? Spear - Me want clean shorts!
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jeez spear, stop bull sh!tting, Israel, dont make me laugh, ah hell, i´ll laugh anyway mock mock yes spear, i mock thee Arcon ------ Archie is NOT f*cking Mr. Weatherbee! - Banky, Chasing Amy(1997)
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Same equipment, broader base of reqruitment (everyone as a matter of fact), combat experience (when was the last time you heard that a palestinian had killed a Israeli soldier in combat), a ´back against the wall´ mentality and of course, women in the service <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Spear - Me want chlobham shorts!
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Yeah a real challenge that must be, Palestinians in the street with stones agianst tanks. DSA Squadron Commander <A href=´http://ls3k.com/dsa/forum/default.asp´ Target=_Blank>Dying Star Alliance</a>
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Not that fool! I´m talking about four wars against a numericly superior and technologically equal enemy. 1. The war for independence 1948-1949, about 700000 jewish farmers with a severe shortage of weaponry against not only paramilitary arab tribal warriors and the regular armies of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Syria but also the crack Trans-jordanian legion (Trained and armed by the brits these guys were really meanlooking troopers...). The Jews fought for their very existance and won, even though they lacked ammo, guns, planes, hardly any tanks and training. 2. The Sinai war 1956. A newly born jewish state attacked Egypt to prevent terrorist from entering Israeli soil, a one sided campaign in which the Israelis conquered the entire sinai peninsula in just a matter of days, all this against a numericly AND technologicly superior Egypt (Backed by the USSR these guys had weapons which would´ve made the North Koreans make in their pants.). 3. the Suez War 1967. Israel now a main contender in the middle east attacks Egypt again, this time to liberate the suez canal, they do not only complete this mission but they also suceed in capturing the west bank, the gaza strip and the golem hights. Israeli losses on the ground against the arabs who are now equally matched technologicly but still superior numericly are marginal, in the air the losses are pathetic, the IAF gained air superiority on day one and lept it to the end of the war. 4. the Yom Kippur War 1973. This time it is Syria that launches a attack against Israel, attacking the golem garrison are two large corps of syrian troops armed with the latest sovjet weapons (most notably the SA-6, one should keep in mind that the vietnamese were at the time using SA-2s. when you compare these two it is like comparing a barrel loaded 15:th century cannon against a paladin self propelled field howitser.) the two coprs were facing two BRIGADES of Israeli centurion tanks, namly the Barak brigade and the 5:th brigade, after a long battle the Israelis could finally get reenforcements in and wipe the syrians out, but before that the two brigades had, without artillery (The IDF had at the time scrapped most of it´s artillery in favour for the IAF) and CAS (remember the SA-6s) almost destroyed an entire corps and had seriously damaged the other, although they had lost almost 75% of their men they held on and to this day the boys and girls of the 6:th and the 7:th are proud of their brigade and their achivements. Spear - Me be jewish!