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Monday, March 10th 2003, 2:44am

Lets see the sceen shot.. and pass that save game too!
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 2:50am

Nice, you just beat me to it. <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> I´ve been working on the same thing too, after the conversation in the other thread. I now have the Hessians down to neutral (which were my former hostiles), only the bounty hunters got angry in the process and are two small pixels away from back to neutral... So I´ll have to work on that a bit.
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 2:52am

Ok here you go, you´ll notice the scroll bar is all the way at the top so there are no factions hiding above there, they are barely neutral but nonetheless I am neutral/friendly to everyone. I have all systems found plus the two unknowns but I still have to go through and maps all the jump holes and such that are remaining. I´m only level 34 also so I´m not even maxed out or fully explored yet, but it will be much easier with no hostiles hehe. <img src=´http://home.attbi.com/~lanmax2000/neutral.jpg ´>
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 3:51am

Nice, but where you´re wrong is in the thinking that you´re absolutely safe on those trade runs. Neutral &quot;criminals&quot; will sometimes try to shake you down for your cargo when you come out of a jump hole, popping up a dialog box just like when cops tell you to dump your Cardamine or Artifacts. :p
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 4:49am

Lol! Sorry to rain on your parade, but I just achieved Neutral/Friendly with all factions, without even trying. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> I just finished all the SP missions, at lvl 34 since I had a net worth of 1.4 million, figured I should try to get in good with the Outcasts again to get a Sabre (since now they were hostile, the game having reset all my faction relations). Well I went to Yanagi depot on my way to get Sunslayers (and didn´t kill anyone on the way), dropped in the bar a few times for two no strings attached Zoner bribes, getting them to full green reputation. Then, I figured while I was there, I might as well get a Junker bribe. Went back between the bar and equipment dealer a few times, finally got a 90k Junker bribe and... boom! All factions neutral/friendly. Getting friendly with the Junkers affected the Xenos, Hogosha and ...I think Bounty Hunters (?) a bit madder... -However-... Junkers are enemies of -ALL- house corporations. Making them a bit less friendly just bumped my relations with the all the criminal factions that I was hostile to just -barely- neutral, but hey, it works <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 5:02am

You can´t become neutral/friendly to all factions without trying, please revise your post. And if I ever get asked to drop cargo I just keep going full cruise and land in the nearest place. Take off again and they are gone and back to normal.
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 5:42am

nice work. but for me i love having the factions friendly or hostile towards me. its excitement. i dunno how to explain but its more fun for me.
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 5:47am

Y´know what I say to all that? KILL ´EM ALL AND LET GOD SORT ´EM OUT! <img src=smilies/icon_smile_evil.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> `´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´`´` <img src=´http://www.echostation.com/echo6/6x-wedge.gif ´> Rogue Squadron: <b>The True Force in the Galaxy! </b> Edited by - Rogue Leader on 10-03-2003 05:48:14
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 6:00am

I admit it is more fun being aligned and having enemies, I just wanted to see if it was possible. It also makes for a good neutral save game so I can branch off of that into different career paths and different save games. Like keep that one always then have a: Bounty Hunter Path save game Full Pirate save game Tradesman save game etc. etc., makes it easier to go different ways with a neutral save game to start from.
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 1:43pm

Ok, not exactly not trying, but I was only intentionally trying to become friendlier with the Junkers and Zoners, with everything else as a side effect. And since I accidentally made peace with all the factions, you should challenge yourself to see if it is possible to have relations with all factions -at or above- 0 (the middle point of the relation bar). <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 3:05pm

All above the halfway mark is impossible, getting the final few barely neutral is hard enough.
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 3:32pm

Okay, I now have my all neutral / friendly state too. Seeing this isn´t deemed such a hot property any more, I´ll refrain from posting a screenshot or a save game, but it´s available if anyone needs it. I just won´t nominate myself for the special achievements award. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> I have 172 bases visited (actually landed upon, so all the details are available when for example looking for commodity prices), which is all as far as I know, except if there are any bases after the unknown (nomad) jump gates, which I´ve yet to explore fully. I´ve got to say it was by no means easy, so Zyrxil should be damned pleased to have gotten it so easily. I have the Zoners friendly too, being friendly with Junkers would outrage a lot in my game though. My simple example: I wanted to get the Bounty Hunters back from barely hostile to just neutral. I then looked for pirate factions where I could afford a little bit of hatred. The Bundschuch was my first choice. A bad one, as it turned out - killing them outraged the Red Hessians. After reloading, I went after the Liberty Rogues. Interestingly enough, it seems the Unioners (a Rheinland faction) are allies of the Liberty Rogues. They raced to their help and my alignment with the Unioners dropped even though I only fired upon the Rogues. In another interesting twist, while killing the Rogues seemingly didn´t matter to the Bretonia Mollies, losing my friendliness towards the Unioners made the Mollies hostile. Sigh. On to some missions for the Unioners, getting some shipping companies and the Liberty Navy to like me less. Mollys back to neutral, Bounty Hunters back to hostile. Double sigh. I have then finally got the right idea and went after the Xenos. The Bounty Hunters were pleased and no one else seemed to bother at all. Even the Xenos themselves didn´t get too pissed off. Poor fellas. Just a bit later I noticed an interesting battle going on (all the while I was just observing as neutral) - Xenos killing Xenos. At least there were no ships other than Xenos around, and they were firing wildly, certainly not at me, but at each other. So, when they say the Xenos hate just about everyone, they mean it. <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> - Anyway, I´m at a point in the game where I do enjoy having no hostiles and wouldn´t want it any other way. I do not find it fun any more to have silly little ships attacking me and bother with them. They can hardly make an impression on my shields, yet they would still slow me down greatly by killing my cruise engines if I didn´t bother taking them out. I guess about the only thing left for me is some more exploring, particularly all the shipwrecks and their loot that I missed, and fighting in the unknown worlds. And for that, it is rather beneficial to have nobody else outright hostile against me.
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 10:01pm

Actually, fds, I would quite appreciate it if you were to send me your savegame. I work a standard 40 hour week while attending a vocational college, so I cannot find the time to play religiously. Send to: duality432@msn.com
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Monday, March 10th 2003, 10:46pm

I can also send my save game if anyone wants it, all neutral/friendly and the whole universe explored to the best of my knowledge. Click on my profile and send me an e-mail if you want it, I don´t mind sharing I know how it is.
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Tuesday, March 11th 2003, 1:42am

Sent it, should be there by now. As I wrote in the email: use it wisely, for example you probably would not want spoil your enjoyment of the game by checking out such a late savegame before finishing the single player story part on your own.
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Tuesday, March 11th 2003, 8:07pm

I do not mean to sound bothersome, but it seems my MSN Hotmail subsidiary account under the name Duality432 is not functioning, as I am unable to send nor recieve messages. Would you please send to my primary account at the following address aliciacaraba@msn.com
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Tuesday, March 11th 2003, 9:19pm

Yup, I did get a warning message from my mail server that it´s been unable to deliver your message &quot;for the past 4 hours.&quot; Re-sending to the other address. You may edit this new address out of your message now in case some address-harvesting bot might pick it up for spam.
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