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Monday, April 25th 2005, 8:09pm

Your right about the sample rate but the reason its suggested to use 22khz is to keep the file sizes down to a reasonable level. If your adding large quantities of music it´s not practicle to leave the rate at 44khz otherwise you´ll end up with huge file sizes
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Tuesday, April 26th 2005, 12:25am

If you´re working with music... ideally, you probably want to use the Ogg Vorbis compression format that DA used for their audio streams... And Audacity is a free, high-powered audio editor... imo, much superior to most other things, because you can even synthesize entirely new sounds with it, resample things, apply various effects processors, etc. If you haven´t tried it, give it a whirl... it´s not terribly hard to figure out, and fun to make new noises with <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Tuesday, April 26th 2005, 3:17pm

Can you give the link to that program, sounds really interesting. Also Gibbon, I appreciate the extra information about the sampling rate. What I was trying to do was let people know that the sampling rate doesn´t matter in order to play music in freelancer, but that information you provided could come in handy. Oh, just FYI, I hope my tutorial is easy to understand and read. I´ve read some of the tutorials on these forums, and no offense meant to the writers at all, but some of them are hard to follow. Doesn´t have anything to do with grammar or spelling just hard to follow along. I don´t know if anyone else has had this problem, but I wanted to make a detailed yet simple tutorial to follow. Edited by - lts_silver on 4/26/2005 2:19:53 PM

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Tuesday, May 10th 2005, 12:01am

I´ve been playing with the music and Ive found some wavs cause CTD at the end of playback - any tips?is there a minimum length below which files will cause this lockup/c.t.d condition? also argh what is this ogg compression for wav´s you´re talking about - any information would be appreciated,i will check out audacity meanwhile and see if that can fix my files
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Tuesday, May 10th 2005, 4:54am

Could you be more specific about what you mean by CTD?

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Tuesday, May 10th 2005, 6:40am

It means Crash To Desktop,a common problem with modding Freelancer &amp; not getting it right. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

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Tuesday, May 10th 2005, 1:02pm

Freelancer does not use Ogg Vorbis for anything. When making compressed sound files for this game you must stick to the original (not hacked) version of the Fraunhofer MP3 Codec. Compressed files must have a RIFF-WAV header added to them in order to work (this is more than just renaming the file to .wav).
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Tuesday, May 10th 2005, 11:07pm

aaaaaaaaaghhhh!okay so you´re saying FL has MP3 format wavs? o_O what is this header &amp; how do I attach it-better yet what program would you recommend
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Thursday, May 12th 2005, 11:53pm

Personally i use Soundforge 6.0 or 7.0, does all the conversion for you at a drop of a hat and i´ve had no problems sticking new music files in <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Sunday, May 15th 2005, 6:16pm

You can use CDex (free software) to compress your wav files and add the RIFF-WAV header. As my work on the Freelancer audio format progresses I will release more information. Check out the latest beta´s of the <A href=´http://eoa.seriouszone.com/?page=flsdk´ Target=_Blank>Freelancer S.D.K. 1.5</a> and <A href=´http://eoa.seriouszone.com/?page=flexp´ Target=_Blank>Freelancer Explorer v2.x</a>
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Monday, May 16th 2005, 10:56am

thanks Louva-Deus - I´d like to give a tip to all the modders out there about the CTD and the following stall that occurs as microsoft´s error reporting agent loads.Go to control panel,system,advanced tab,and at the bottom you´ll find a button named Error Reporting - click it &amp; you can disable reports system wide or just for freelancer,this will save a lot of time when you are debugging as you no longer have to wait for the send/do not send dialog.
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Monday, May 16th 2005, 1:42pm

Might as well throw this in here: If you are using music from bands/groups etc., that is not yours to distribute, you MUST get written permission from them first. Not only will TLR not host a file without proper permission (as far as I know), but I think it also falls under a copyright law (or something...I´m a kid, I´m not so certain about every single law <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> ) L.D. P.S. - And getting permission is not always free...A minor sum of anything over &#163;200 GBP is stopping me from releasing a mod with a drop dead perfect soundtrack <img src=smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> ...
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Tuesday, May 17th 2005, 9:38am

Distributing copyrighted music is illegal. Check out the latest beta´s of the <A href=´http://eoa.seriouszone.com/?page=flsdk´ Target=_Blank>Freelancer S.D.K. 1.5</a> and <A href=´http://eoa.seriouszone.com/?page=flexp´ Target=_Blank>Freelancer Explorer v2.x</a>
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Wednesday, August 3rd 2005, 4:52am

This debate about what´s illegal or not has been done to death in various posts, partly by me, i´ve worked in the music business for years so i have an insiders point of view as to what is illegal or not. There are some mods on TLR that definately have copyrighted music used without permission, no arguments there, i can name names but i shall refrain (no pun intended lol) from doing so. If as a modder you wish to use already copyrighted material then you must seek permission from the original authors or from the publishers. If they were to get wind of the fact you are using their tunes then a lawsuit is guaranteed unless you cross someones palm with silver. The only saving grace here for the modding community is whose going to find out? Chances of Jeff Beck or Guns ´n´ Roses playing FL are slim at best. So you take your chances like everyone else on this matter really, the fact these mods are free does help, but i guarantee the music within, if from a known artist is not so be careful when sticking your favourite tunes in a mod. Do this at home and don´t post it here otherwise it could mean trouble for everyone!
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