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Thursday, August 25th 2005, 9:23pm

I am also a very logical person ( and spirtal as well) and I dont buy into ANYTHING unless I have the facts to back it up ( like the werewolf thing) but personal experence does count for something. I dont expect you to beleive me and I do hope that you never encounter a ghost, it is never fun. Blessed Be to all those that still dream of the flight to the stars.
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Thursday, August 25th 2005, 10:08pm

Heh, i hope to hell i don´t meet a ghost either. Or an alien, which, btw, you are more likely to encounter than ghosts <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> I mean, a ghost/alien appearing in front of you would scare the sh!t outta me. <img src=´http://x2.putfile.com/8/23412562373.pg ´> FL:CE Mod Team Leader Edited by - Finalday on 8/26/2005 10:36:34 AM

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Thursday, August 25th 2005, 10:31pm

......no <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> <img src=´http://x2.putfile.com/8/23412562373.pg ´> FL:CE Mod Team Leader Edited by - Finalday on 8/26/2005 10:37:00 AM

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Friday, August 26th 2005, 3:13am

to see an alien in person would not scare me at all ( unless it had violent intentions) I would make every attemt to communicate with it and find out if I could drive its ship lol. Blessed Be to all those that still dream of the flight to the stars.
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 7:28am

ah, spooks and weird stuff &lt;yuk&gt; &quot;People insane like you&quot; &quot;ghost fanatics&quot; .. hardly. I hate the things. I used to be just liek you, i used to mock at anything that smacked of the supernatural - right up to the moment it came and bit me on the @ss (figuratively speaking of course) Im not a ghost hunter, never had any interest. i avoid the supernatural like the plague and went mad at the wife when she was buggering about with a ouija board. i dont even watch that *Most haunted* rubbish on telly because its such a load of bunkum. Derek Acora, what an old fraud. BUT ghosts are real. I don´t know what they are, and dont want to know, but whatever they are they exist and they influence and interact with the world around them. and no i wasnt hammered or on drugs and im not insane, although what i saw and experienced was enough to drive someone insane. this wasnt no dark blob out of the cormner of my eye, it was up close and personal, i heard it, saw it, smellled its stink and it touched me, i felt its horrible evil hands on me and the dam thing came back for 3 nights! urgh it creeps me out just thinking about it. this was nearly 20 years ago mind. (didnt we do this once before, a few years ago. i think Rec and SW said it was a pokoloko or summat, anyway they recognised my description from African legends - I was in Birmingham at the time!) i hate spooks and stuff, why cant they leave us living people alone and stay dead where they belong? anyway, don´t mock too much, it could happen to you then youd brick your pants (cos I did)
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 8:52am

Whats a pokoloko? All I get when I google it is someguys nickname.
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 9:02am

well it was something like that. i´ll see if i can find the proper reference. id never heard the term before. sounded like pokemon to me. edit - well ic ant find it so i must have got the name wrong, its summat like that anyway. here´s what happened. I was just starting my 3rd year at uni, moved to new digs, had my own room on top floor (and yes it was locked) was the day before term was due to start and id just been reading HG Wells. wasnt sleepy but switched the ligth off and lay back. mustve been ajust after midnight when i felt pressure on my abdomen, like a hand pushing down. nah i though, must be the bedcovers.. nope. it continued and i could feel distinct fingers. uh-oh i thought, what teh hells this? then i heard it breathing. slow rasping brething like someone with emphysema. no way thinks I, this isnt real. then the fingers started to dig in and i felt finfgernails in my flesh. i was really bricking it now and terrified, i couldnt move. then i felt the bedsheets start to move down (my hands were by my sides, i was rigid with fear) then i heard it satrt to laugh, a low wicked chuckle like it was really enh=joying making me scared somehow (dont ask me how) this really pissed me off and i managed to kick and beat the bedsheets and start screaming at it. this sort of broke whatever was affecting me and i jumped up to confront it and there on the endof my bed was alittle gnarled ugly thing that loloked like the dwarf thing out of *Dont Look Now* except it was naked and brown and wrinklled and stank. i called it a *b*st*rd* and went for it but it was fast and jumped off laughing and disappeared into the shadows. i spent a while looking for it with a baseball bat but couldnt find it. so wrote the whole thing off as a bad dream, even though i know i hadnt been dreaming. but then back in those days i didnt want to beleive in any of this stuff and tried to rationalise it away. well next nigth it came back, this time about 1 in the morning. i wasnt expecting it so it scred me sh*itless agin, but again i managed to fight it off. it looked me right in the eye and i could tell it found the whole thing amusing so i sore as it was buggering off that next time id get it and kick the stuffing out of it. next nigth i was prepared and it came really late, id given up on it. i was dozing off this time but as soon as i felt it i jumped up and gave it a massive whack with my bat, dunno if i got it but it ran off squealing and vanished and I stayed on guard all night. it didnt come back i asked the woman who owned the house if anything odd had ever happened there but she wouldnt be drawn, which was suspicious. i only discussed it with one person, a friend at uni, who said she thought it was a lesson for me for my mockery. shamefacedly i had to concede that point. years later i found out that its q common and is known as the Night Crusher, a sleep demon, and is associated with sleep paralysis, and has been going on for millenia. and its a common experience across the world amongst many cultures. bizarre. in S Africa its called this poko-thing and is suppsoed to take small children or summat. Henri Fuseli used to draw nightmare pictures of it, sort of like an incubus. its def some sort of elemental demon - im told not a ghost as such. oh well whatever it was its stayed well away for 2 decades and it wouldnt be welcome back. bleiev me or not, all i can say is that it happened and i didnt tell anyone much for years in case they thought i was bonkers. i didnt ask for it to happen, im not pleased that it did and i d rather it never had. all im saying is dont mock or make assumptions, i used to do that and look what happened. Edited by - Tawakalna (Reloaded) on 8/26/2005 8:34:21 AM
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 9:39am

I don´t outright not believe in them. It just doesn´t seem rational that they exist. Still get freaked in the dark though <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

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Friday, August 26th 2005, 10:07am

but not everything can be explained rationally. would be great if it could, but some things just defy rationalisation. at least, based oj our current knowledge. maybe in the future it will be, I dunno. what is science now was magic a few centuries ago, and the same may be true in future times. thats not the only weird/spook experience Ive had since then but its the only one Im telling you lot about! def the scariest though. and my milk bottle has moved from the middle to the bottom shelf - it wasn´t me so it must be a poltergeist! <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 11:14am

personally, i think its rational to think they DO exist, just because we cant see them most of the time, it doesnt mean they arent around.

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Friday, August 26th 2005, 12:14pm

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>in S Africa its called this poko-thing and is suppsoed to take small children or summat. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> Could be that you´re refering to the &quot;Tokkelosie&quot; Used to frighten children, but many adults also believe in it, mind you only in black cultures. The Tokkelos is believed to be very powerful, but you can be safe from it by placing your bed on bricks...ie..lifting it high enough of the ground. Or maybe you´re refering to somethign else, but the Tokkelos is the only prominent &quot;spirit&quot; I know of in SA <i>you found your way into my head where even angels fear to tread </i>
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 12:22pm

that´s the fella! the pokelokemon! see i nearly had it right.. FDs beard put me off.
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 12:37pm

Well,I got story of my own. Me and four other friends were out in a forest which I live near.We all had our paintball guns,which were all loaded up to 300 fps (And that hurts like hell).So were walking around with guns in hand when my friend hears something.We all thought it was just a neighbor setting up their camp (Which they do about every two weeks).But for the heck of it we check it out and low and behold is the same thing Taw described.Now were scared crapless and dont know what to do.Then BAM! The idea comes,shoot the damnable demon.So we aim at this thing (It doesnt know were there) and like a 5 man firing squad unload on it.That thing ran like a bat outta hell.Few minutes later we asked ourselves what happened.Then we hear this scream,and we run.2 minutes later were hiding in the attic at my house.
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 1:05pm

At least you shot it! <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> *works on freelancer theme* GOD I LOVE THIS COLOR SCHEME! <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

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Friday, August 26th 2005, 5:16pm

Ok, Rayman 3 has got to be the wierdest video game of all time. I mean, i freed one of those people thingies your supposed to free, and what does he say? &quot;I have soup up my but&quot;. No, i´m not joking.

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Friday, August 26th 2005, 5:30pm

I have also been attacked by what you called a night crusher, but this one tried to fry me with my eletric blanket ( I havent had one since) it turnd out that the spirit was a black slave that had died in the well in the basement, that basement really looked like something out of one of the admidville horror movies.BUt he really hated white people ( can you blame him?). I found out this info on the slave by checking out the libary,all houses keep a record on who lived there and when someone moves in they also show up on that list. By doing alittle detective work I found out not only about that spirit but also one that was bugging me at an apartment ( he really did not like me or my iron madien posters lol) in the same small town. I did have one really funny ( in a sort of creepy way) incident with a ghost but this is a family forum and I cant say. Blessed Be to all those that still dream of the flight to the stars.
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 5:52pm

Meet a demon, you won´t soon forget it. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Always picking on my nice long beard, eh Taw <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 7:32pm

Dude&lt;s&gt;, your ALL screwed up, I mean, &quot;Gosts&quot; ? Pfft,. No such thing. Grow up, stop beliven in fary tales <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> (You´ll go farther in life)

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Friday, August 26th 2005, 8:52pm

In my house I have this constant feeling of being watched, like its always just felt wierd, I dont feel that safe, I always think someone else is in the house, at night the stair case is really creapy and walking around the outside of it is toothings go missing, then they turn up again just sitting out in the open, and no one in the family put it there... but yeah taw, your story, and Finals? the one about shadow creatures have freaked the poop out of me... I cant tell myself &quot;its just a movie&quot;.... =´ (
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Friday, August 26th 2005, 11:12pm

I had this wierd experience with matter teleportation once with a book. Mind you, this was bout 4-5 years ago. I had a book loaned out from the school library (Halfway across the galaxy and turn left, if you MUST know), and it was overdue. i looked everywhere for it, couldnt find it. nor could my parents. so we paid the fee and went on with life. about a year later, i found the book. under my bed. Normal? not in the slightest. the bed i was now sleeping on in that room had been swapped with the bed in my sisters room. there was NOTHING under the bed when it was moved. I still have the book on my bookshelf. never returned it. As for the nightcrawlers. i have only one ting to say: Nothin that is alive today can withstand a 300km/s massdriver magnetic slug to the head. if it can, chances are, your out of your league.
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