Control your own faction Rpg discussion (IE, where to go next)

  • These are just some suggestions but not as critical as the other post. A. Instead of having each faction having individual strengths and weaknesses group them into different types. Here is what I was thinking: 1.House Navy (ie. Liberty Navy, Reinhland Navy) - Better and more ships but everything is more expensive. Best capital ships. 2. police (ie. LSF, reinhland federal police, BHG) - good ships and spies, the most balanced type of faction. 3. Corporation (ie, universal shipping, samura) - weakest offensive ships but best armor and frieghters. 4. Pirate (ie. Liberty Rogues, lane hackers) - good personal fighters. adept at evasion and hit -and -run tactics. 5. Revolutionary (ie. unioners, blood dragons,) - similar to pirates, but since their primary enemies are usually House naval forces rather than house police, their ships are configured more for taking on capital ships and gunboats. **if freelancer was Star Wars the pirates would use X wings and A wings, the Revolutionaries would use Y Wings and B wings** 6. Smuggler (ie. junkers) - cheaper faster construction and research, but start out with the smallest initial force and infrastructure (bases and shipyards) B. Since the outcasts and the corsairs have the potential to fit into several different groups they should have the option at the beginning of the Rpg whether they want to join forces and work as a House millitary or go their seperate ways and be pirates ( there actually would be advantages to the latter choice such as more powerful fighters rather than devoting resources to capital ships.) C. There should be an option that would allow groups such as the various mining guilds and smugglers to build mining or recyling facilities to obtain resources directly, thus reducing construction costs by a certain percentage. D. There should be a LIMITED ability to research jump rift technonogy for ships to large to be accomadated by a conventional jump hole. Energy and production costs of such a device would go up exponentially with the size of the object being moved rendering the "moving planet" fiasco impossible. (the rule from before about only being able to jump one system at a time was also a good example) E. Battles should also be in a turn based format (if they are not already.) summary: faction characteristics determined by group, alliance between outcasts and corsairs decided at the begining, cheaper ships for miners and smugglers, LIMITED jump rift research, battles in turn based format. Edited by - vorticaldwarf on 10/22/2004 8:01:54 AM

    "Shogunate of Kusari in mind but always a Blood Dragon at heart"

  • I disagree Outcast. I went to the site, and it is nice, but I think we should do it here. It is better here because it is easy to get new people to join, and I want it to be a part of the site.

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  • Are we going to get this thing set up or what? I still maintain we need to have a structured diplomacy system. While wars are great fun, they are difficult to get involved in. The cost of war is very high as well so a simple economic system will need to be brought in. I think for this next one, to keep it simple and easily updateable, i strongly suggest again that we cannot discover new systems or create new technologies or bases. Do we even have a judge for the new one yet? jacob If its going to be you this time round, here is my msn, leeaar2@hotmail.com. This was the e-mail address i gave you when you were working on the fanfic compilation, maybe we could have a discussion on MSN about a few ideas. Code As you have expressed interest in this second one as well and have got some great ideas, maybe you wanted to as well.

  • Final list of ideas: Reading all the posts, i´d like to present a final list of ideas. Then we can change that, rather than everyone posting new stuff. LIST Abolish VHFs (Then we can make All LFs equal, and all HFs equal.) Yes, Defenders do equal Centurions now. All choose factions at start. More can join in later, but we should start with at least 5 or so. No new tech advancement No new systems Turn (no money, it will get too complicated, methinks) system (i can design an Excel sheet for this if we work out all the details) so far we have something like this: 5 Producing Bases per Faction maximum Each bases gets 1 turn a day, so maximum is 5 turns. Base Classes: (and examples) Capital Shipyard: Norfolk Shipyard, Alster Shipyard, Yukawa Shipyard (any large shipyard) Can make weapons platforms Fighter Shipyard: Planets, Main Base for each pirate faction (eg Vogtland, Buffalo, Kyoto). Main base for every faction. (eg GMG=Aomori Station, others will be worked out) Other Bases: Anything really. Simply generate money, can´t be used to build anything. Weapons Platforms: 5 Turns (worth 100 points, but cant move. can only be placed once. maximum of 5 next to a base.) Minefield: 50 Turns. Placed around 1 base, makes it impervious to fighters. No effect on capital ships. Battleships. (a force using fighters against a defending minefielded base cant use the fighter points) Battleship: 10 turns (worth 100 points in battle) Crusier/Dreadnought: 5 Turns (worth 40 points in battle) Gunboat: 1 Turn: (worth 5 points in battle) HF: 0.5 Turns: (worth 2 points in battle) LF: 0.25 Turns: (worth 1 point in battle) Battle System: Unless there has been a formal arrangement to meet in a neutral system (u gotta come up with a good reason for this) then one side must attack anothers system/base. All the points are added up. A defending bonus of x1.5 is given to the defending side. Whoever has the highest number of points wins, and the double the difference is taken off the losing side. if the attackers win, they get the system. If they lose, they retreat to the nearest neutral/allied system.

  • Okay, there are some parts I like, and there are some I don´t as much. I want there to be admins and mods for this. Admins- 2 of them. They can play, and they have the power to decide any battles, and give warnings, etc. on stuff. They can also change/edit rules. Mods- 2-3 of them. They also can play, and they can decide battles, with 20 or less ships involved, and they also check people´s math on money production, and give warnings, etc. So far, here is who I have/want for admins and mods. Admins: ww2jacob I changed my mind, having one, non playing admin would be the best. I am working on an official set of rules, and I want to post them later on tommorow. <img src=´http://img99.exs.cx/img99/668/CYOF2Banner.jpg ´> Edited by - ww2jacob on 10/29/2004 9:47:55 PM

    ________________________________ A turbulent time where the fate of humankind rests in the balance. The fulcrum, the breaking point of humanity. Heros rise and fall, faster than any can track. Saviors and demons both. Who will you be? How will your story be told? Control Your Own Faction 5: The Redemption Join the revolution here!

  • <img src=smilies/icon_smile_question.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle><img src=smilies/icon_smile_question.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle><img src=smilies/icon_smile_question.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> How? I think more would make the game faster. Edited by - ww2jacob on 10/29/2004 4:28:49 PM

    ________________________________ A turbulent time where the fate of humankind rests in the balance. The fulcrum, the breaking point of humanity. Heros rise and fall, faster than any can track. Saviors and demons both. Who will you be? How will your story be told? Control Your Own Faction 5: The Redemption Join the revolution here!

  • to Outcast: Most ideas I think you are right but making all the fighters equal destroys the whole basis of Freelancer. The wole point of being a criminal faction, the only thing that makes them even remotely competitive with the house navies is the fact that their fighters are better. It gives the game a feeling of strategy. If you want to put a limit on something it should be capital ships.

    "Shogunate of Kusari in mind but always a Blood Dragon at heart"

  • ok no no NO we are not doing that one turn a day thing. it moves way too slowly. we need maybe 5 posts a day being a maximum. That works.

  • Bret - I don´t MSN often...Stupid 56k modem. *grumbles* but if you want to add me I´m id_rather_fly@hotmail.com Jacob - While I´m flattered by your nomination for me as an &quot;Admin&quot; I think it would be more appropriate for that responsibility to go to Outcast. VD - I agree. Factions should all have strengths and weaknesses. If I play I think I´d like to be IC maybe. I wouldn´t actually get involved in much fighting but I could give certain factions a much needed boost in cash if I want their side to win.

    Edit: Removed sig. Edited by - Stinger on on 12/30/2004 3:43:05 PM

  • Also, I think that DSQrn should be have an admin post on this one (no offence Codename or Outcast). He is, after all, responsible for everything that happened. I like VD´s idea and structure of levels of military. That seems to me to be pretty good. Frankly, we have to institute one rule which has been severely neglected: No flashy endings. Especially if you just think &quot;Hey, maybe I´ll end the rpg myself without consulting the group&quot; and ESPECIALLY if it has nothing to do with anything else that has been going on. And as for where we should go, how about NO ALIEN ATTACKERS. NONE. zip. nada. we should just see what unfolds with the rpg...someone posts, another person responds, and it slowly grows. Edited by - Wilde on 10/29/2004 10:05:04 PM Edited by - Wilde on 10/29/2004 10:06:31 PM

  • Sorry guys, but i will most likely be the only admin. I will not play, and I will run it, because I know the rules best. (Because I wrote them <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>)

    ________________________________ A turbulent time where the fate of humankind rests in the balance. The fulcrum, the breaking point of humanity. Heros rise and fall, faster than any can track. Saviors and demons both. Who will you be? How will your story be told? Control Your Own Faction 5: The Redemption Join the revolution here!

  • He can help, thought I thought he had &quot;quit&quot; TLR. I guess not, so he can help, but I need to run a lot of things, at least at the beginning before everyone gets used to the rules. But, help would be appreciatted. Perhaps he can do some stuff. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

    ________________________________ A turbulent time where the fate of humankind rests in the balance. The fulcrum, the breaking point of humanity. Heros rise and fall, faster than any can track. Saviors and demons both. Who will you be? How will your story be told? Control Your Own Faction 5: The Redemption Join the revolution here!