Im am a PK

be careful the carebears might ban you for playing the game you paid $50.00 bucks for=/

What is with this care bear stuff? How about Non-PKers? All we do is call you PKers, because it means "player killers," so why do you insist on giving us a derogatory name? Maybe we should just start calling you a**holes. Yeah, yeah that´s good - a**holes. Has a nice ring to it =P (censored myself, btw...)

That is a good point magmus, and i do enjoy helping people get a good start. I usualy spot them some cash to buy a rhino or drone and show them a nice route. I have escorted 3 people to the lvl 10 fighter that they want. The people i help are my allies, they will help me in the future. I am basically creating a new fraction/clan. I have also made real enemies. Now the game is much more exciting for me. Fighting other real people is so much more exciting and much more of a challenge than fighting the comp. The whole point of multiplayer is person to person interaction. I am making the best of it and interacting in every way I can. Its not like I’m hanging out in NY attacking lvl 5 players. If i wanted to trade and do missions all day i would play single player <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

a carebear is someone who cries about it if you fall into this category so be it.. and those who go around on their so called watch looking for pk´s on the server etc..that´s just really stupid. you would call someone an asshole because they victimized you? your the vic <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

Damn all the PKers!!!! <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

The problem isn´t with PKers per se, but with people with uber ships who attack low levellers. It´s not much fun to step into a server (starting at level 1) only to be blasted away by some level 30+ dude who thinks it´s funny to kill ships that won´t even damage his shields. (That same guy will then bitch when someone bigger than him comes along and whacks him for six. Typical). Digital Anvil really needs to patch in a system where you can kill anyone with a higher level than yours, but no-one more than 5 levels below. After all, Freelancer is all about accessibility and being easy to get into, so why not make it even more accessible?

PKer´s are not all too bad. I do object to them when they sit outside of Manhattan and blow up New players, but when you´re out in the border worlds, there´s no legitamate reason that you shouldn´t shoot another player with permission. If someone´s hauling Cardamine, for example, kill them if you want. Demand money or cargo first, but if they refuse then shoot them. However, if you do, don´t bitch about it when they come around with a vengeance to kill you every single time you spawn. Simply, Don´t dish it out if you can´t take it.

well put Vengeance

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>What is with this care bear stuff? How about Non-PKers? All we do is call you PKers, because it means &quot;player killers,&quot; so why do you insist on giving us a derogatory name? <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2>Why do you consider that term derogatory? Carebears were known for cooperation rather than conflict right? <font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>Maybe we should just start calling you a**holes. Yeah, yeah that´s good - a**holes. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2>If it makes you feel better, go right ahead. Then save yourself some headaches and play on a non-a**holes server next time. I personally have not PKed a single time, but I love PvP servers. It´s adds an edge to the game that non-PvP is lacking IMO. It make travelling to remote places far more dangerous. Try going to Freeport 5 in a loaded Defender sometime on a busy PvP server. It gets the adrenaline going. The only thing about PvP is that it is getting a little monotonous. I get attacked by other players I see 90% of the time. Maybe after the novelty wears off...but banning PvP is definitly not the answer. The alternative is way worse. <img src=´http://sadisticsavior.home.att.net/ass.jpg ´>

Iam not a Pker but if it wasnt from them i wouldnt have been trying to get my revenge on some on efor all this time would i cough Tassin cough <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade> PK is fine, as long as it´s done with a purpose. Most just want to show off their brand new Titan. They get their HF and just head for Manhattan to kill 1st rank joiners. That´s a practice that will make a server boring in two secs. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> sorry to say, but I stoped reading here ... THERE IS NO PURPOSE for pk in this game. nothing to gain, nothing to lose.

I was kidding with the a**hole term. I wouldn´t stoop to the level of the name caller. But still, in the context of the statement, &quot;care bear&quot; is certainly derogatory. The guy even pointed it out when he said it was for crybabies...another derogatorive, hehe However, I can now safely say I´m not part of the group. And btw, I´m never a victim, I just said I don´t kill low level players, i.e. NON-PK. Maybe I could be called a PDWIFLI, or Player Dueler When I Feel Like It? =) And Luci, I agree with Apocalypse, sort of. What I mean is, I stopped reading at the same time he did, but it was because I saw how much else I had to read if I continued...=P Edited by - Aerundel on 20-03-2003 23:11:20

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>Here is another part to the PK issue. I am 38 Rank trader. I know the risks. I know I am being hunted, that´s fine. If I am going to an area and I see some high level players lurking, that makes me nervous. I take alternate routes, get ready for evasion, etc. or just plain hide until they leave. It´s fun to fool the hunters. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2>Oh boy is it. I´ve done that many many times. I think that might actually be more fun than PKing. Dodge their cruise disruptors (yes, it can be done), dive into an asteroid field...or better yet a mine field. Go into nebula where their sensors turn to mush. Dump a few dozen mines behind you. The possibilities are endless. Wheres the fun in relying on artificial rules to protect you? Treat PCs as very aggressive, very dangerous NPCs. <font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>sorry to say, but I stoped reading here ... THERE IS NO PURPOSE for pk in this game. nothing to gain, nothing to lose. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2>I disagree. Pirating can be very lucrative if you can get away with it. The problem is that so-called pirates end up killing people that pay their tribute anyway, which ruins it for all the other pirates. <img src=´http://sadisticsavior.home.att.net/ass.jpg ´>

hmm, how much should they give you? I mean, you can make about 100k each 5 minutes, 10 if your slow or unlucky. So how much should they give you to make it even worth 1 min taking and another minute accutally do a trade (which involves the risk for you to get killed) so we have here about 2 minutes at the BARE minimun, (which is total utopic, cause you need anyway much longer per victim) 2 minutes, so its worth again at the bare minium 20k credites, or if we get from the standart 100k each 5 mins that you can do in a combat ship in omicron theta, than its even 40k. peanuts for a high level player, but half the cargo for a lower end player. double this amount so the pirate actually start to gain more from this instead of doing just missions. now we are at 80k credits. how much player do you think are willing to give a pirate 80k credits? just that he does not destroy a cargo that is most likly less worth to buy ... heck, often will not even make much more profit than that. it has a reason why often kill some ppl several times, and after that PAY them an eagle when they keep complaining that they are to weak. money is first, totaly worthless, second totaly easy to gain, and third low levelers have not enough to give you, that it would be worth wasting the time. so please can you explain me again where my gain in pking someone really is? wow he just give me 500k credits that I do not kill his cargo worth 250k ... wow wow, now I can refile my torps and mines again <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> oh wait this cost me 700k ... hmmm maybe I should have done instead 4 missions in omicron theta ... cause I needed first 30 minutes to find actually a player with enough cargo, than I needed to another 2 hours to acutally find one that cares about beeing killed, and than it took me 5 minutes to make the trade ... in 5 minutes alone I could have done half a mission ... yeah sounds like a big logical reason to do this. If your telling me that this can be fun, well than you maybe found a reason do actually do it, the game itself defintaly does NOT GIVE YOU ONE. that 90% of all players won´t only tell you to **** off if you ask for their cargo does not really help <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> though aswell 90% of them calling you names when you kill them 10 seconds after you nice &quot;question&quot; but well maybe something changed this week, was not on elite since friday ... <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

well, if you can´t be tough in real life then online games are the way to go, i guess...

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>peanuts for a high level player, but half the cargo for a lower end player. Double this amount so the pirate actually start to gain more from this instead of doing just missions. now we are at 80k credits. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2>Yeah, but you are forgetting the time variable...missions take time to do. Sitting at a tradelane pirating takes no time. <img src=´http://sadisticsavior.home.att.net/ass.jpg ´>

I´ll be a pk´er when I get done exploring and everything...till then I´m just a lowly coward... LOL Oh Lordy...come on people this is a game...just enjoy it...if someone blows you up, the next time you´re online and are able to...blow them up! simple answer for a simple problem...

Yep, this is a game. And I don´t know about everybody else, but I think it´s entertaining to have that whole ´fight-or-flight´ adrenaline surge when I feel that I´m being hunted. Is it sad that it happens during a game? Sure. But since I´m not going to have the same feeling from somebody shadowing me IRL, then I´m gonna enjoy it from the game instead. Also, since this is a game, it´s fairly harmless getting pked. So you get the thrill of the chase...without the risks. Enjoy it. Then again, this only works if somebody is not sitting at a lane waiting for you to happen by or a docking ring and wait for you to come off the planet. Cheers.

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade> Yeah, but you are forgetting the time variable...missions take time to do. Sitting at a tradelane pirating takes no time. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> Did I talk about the time? Yes, I talked about the time, more than once, yes, pirating against NPC makes you even quicker money, about 3-4 millions per hour without any problems (but hey I am neutral with everyone except corairs <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> - and 10 minutes for a mission is not that bad, if the missions pays you ~200k but this does not help you at all against a player, heck it is even a BIGGER argument against pirating a player, in the time you need to just write &quot;drop your cargo&quot; you could have killed a npc ship and tractored its cargo in ... in the 20 seconds you should give a player to react, the cargo could be already sold <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> (team work is here the key, on shoots down the ships direkt at a station while to others keep selling and selling and selling ... or u just use a bug in fl to sell it yourself, but well, I don´t absuse bugs, so I do this with a partner) and again, you have to take into account the time you need to find actually a player that you can rob <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Reading is a fine art, and most ppl have no sense for art.