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Wednesday, February 4th 2004, 7:39pm

It serves them right. Someone needed to say it on their forums, you were just the first from here to do it. *Raises glass and salutes Stinger
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Wednesday, February 4th 2004, 9:43pm

man they have long posts lol <img src=´http://www.cliphoto.com/earth/e-031.gif ´> this is my world; it goes round and round and round
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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 1:07am

hmmm, best read I´ve had for a long time. Always good to see St´n´gr in action.
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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 1:39am

Screw maturity! <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> I want to grow up and be just like Stinger! <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 1:50am

You were just ichting to go at them weren´t you Stinger <img src=smilies/icon_smile_clown.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Very nice! That´s how I like to see it, profound, solid and argumentative conversation performed by &quot;The Stinger&quot; <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> You are a prime example of how conversations/debates should be performed <img src=smilies/icon_smile_approve.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Stinger, I salute thee!

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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 4:29am

Thank you, thank you. I tried to put a lot of research into the points before posting them to ensure I was coming off as somewhat well informed and logical. The responses thus far have been pretty solid and not flaming. When you´re passionate about something you bound to defend it, and that´s been pretty much proven by the replies. My biggest counter-point obviously was the inability to play on-line against others. Sure Privateer and Elite didn´t have those capabilities either so it only makes sense that fans of those games would enjoy the playing experience offered up by X2. But it also proves the point about comparing apples to apples at the same time. The X2 folks really focused on the joystick issue and hammered us pretty hard for being fans of FL. I did want to see how they reacted when they same difficult questions were posed to them about their beloved game. Same basic effect that had here (just not as beligerant as it was when it was our turn in the fire). At least thus far there´s been some mutual respect adherred to from everyone in that thread. FL had MP playability from the get go (even though I´m still a little miffed there wasn´t more enphasis put on the aspect during the beta process by the testers). If more focus had been done on the MP portion it would have only been better once it went gold. (believe me when I say I tried everything in my power to get others to focus more on MP). But as it turned out, the SP portion of the game is what got the most focus and thus the SP campaign turned out to bt pretty well designed and mostly bug free when it was release. Case in point, only patch to be released for FL revolved around what? Server side issues...MP fix only. How many patches have been release for X2 now? <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> I can not wait until the On-line portion becomes a reality for X2 to have my chance to review that as well. &quot;different game&quot; be damned, they will need the same software to participate, just like FL and then we can truly compare apples to apples.

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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 6:44am

i like any space game lol <img src=´http://www.cliphoto.com/earth/e-031.gif ´> this is my world; it goes round and round and round
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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 6:56am

Waaaaah! Linky no worky!
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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 7:43am

Yes, I noticed that too! I don´t know what Stinger has done, but the entire Egosoft site is offline for already a couple of hours!! Speak up Sting, what the hell did you do ? <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 7:45am

So. Is it me or is it Egosoft? Link´s not good for me either.

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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 8:31am

Heh heh... perhaps a flame war did start and everybody got so boisterous they crashed the server or somthing <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 8:33am

Nah its Egosoft. Site has been really crap today. Good post by Stinger although the majority of points revolve around multiplayer which X2 was never going to have. cant remember the rest of the points as I cant read the post!!! Joystick support has been really patchy so far but in 1.2 seems to have sorted out most of the remaining issues. Number of patches = 2 so far. Not exactly terrible although more than FL (as Stinger pointed out). Also surprised that no-one has started flaming, perhaps some of the banning that was done actually worked! TC
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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 10:05am

Finally got to take a short look. It will soon come to flaming I think. Funny how fans of a game cannot allow that there is any fault or flaw in what they like. I guess it is some illogical reaction that a slight upon their favorite game is one upon their own persons. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 10:28am

I get to see at last. Stinger, you are absoutly right. I was quite mad at Egosoft for the first few days after I started playing for joystick trouble and especialy lack of instruction. The cutscenes are almost humerous etc. Having said that, I´m sorry, but I have to say this... in FL people go through special trouble to remove the cutscenes! And yes, vertical learning curve, but once you do learn it´s pretty easy to manage and allows you to be in two (or three, or four...) places at once. <i>But, </i> I´m not going to try to tip anybody one way or the other. Both great games. They have thier differences, we all have our favorite. It´s almost like a best ship discussion. We all fly each ship, and still don´t agree <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>
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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 1:13pm

@ Indy did you not see ONE of my threads or posts on X2?
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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 2:54pm

*Reads EgoSoft forum post* Interesting. Well everyone knows my views on the game, but one thing I haven´t said, and that makes me mad, is the fact that you have to register to download the patches! Personally, I think that that is pathetic. I mean, you go and pay $90 for a game (AUD), and then you have to subscribe to download a patch! I´m sorry, but patches should be made available to anyone at any time, as they are often designed to fix errors in the original coding. Well that was a short rant, but I feel better now. *Puts on asbestos suit against flaming* (I´m looking at you, Griff <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> ).

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Thursday, February 5th 2004, 3:32pm

Muwahaha! Suprise ambush-flame by Warlord Bob! <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle><img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Just kidding, I actualy had to register twice <img src=smilies/icon_smile_angry.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> but having said that, you only have to download it (and use the site at all) once, and it takes all of 5 min. to register and download (DSL). That´s just a finer point that shown Egosoft´s ineptness, nothing to get too upset about. EDIT: Alas, my opinion mush show itself... <A href=´http://www.egosoft.com/x2/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23214&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;start=30´ Target=_Blank>Link</a> EDIT 2: On Egosoft I am Warlord Robert due to having to register twice. Edited by - Warlord Bob on 2/5/2004 4:20:56 PM
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Friday, February 6th 2004, 3:24am

Well, Esquilax, that registering to get patches could be a measurement against piracy (don´t know how it´s executed). Also, i´d be surprised if you can´t get the patches from somewhere else....
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Friday, February 6th 2004, 5:59am

thats exactly why they have done it. In an attempt to put off the casual pirate. Of course the patches are probably available by other means within minutes of them being released but thats something that cant be stopped. I personally dont see the problem with registering to get patches but others do. TC
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Friday, February 6th 2004, 6:24am

Hi Griff..... ummm. You mean on TLR? I admit to not having read all of the X2 threads. This one caught my eye because it was Stinger who started it. I think you started a thread that was a fairly objective critique of X2 that got people interested in it. That´s all I remember. Why? Oh. I get it. You think I am referring to the TLR threads? No. I meant what I think I saw developing at Egosoft. Could be wrong though. Edited by - Indy11 on 2/6/2004 1:26:53 PM

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