Computer STILL not working! Part2 plz help <img src=smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

Sorry OT, does this mean we get to start putting emoticons in our subject headings again? <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Sir S

i havent a clue, sounds like you´ve replaced everything there is to replace (if there is something you havent replaced then replace it <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>)

i agree with sw, buy a new one off ebay they shouldnt be <i> that </i> expensive for a medium spec machine.

it just so happens that i know those mobos work, although i could accept that in the freight they might have discharged. But for every board you try? there´s some other factor at work. the first and most obvious is, you aren´t putting the power switch connector onto the DiLs properly, while usually it doesn´t matter which way round they are, for power it can be important (i once ripped out an entire mobo and spent 2 days fookin about before i realised wot id done!) so check that ABit amanual I sent you. othewise it´s your pc power supply, get a new ATX psu 400W, wont saet you back much. OR you´ve got a short somewhere. check how you´ve screwed everything up. Also have you tried changing the CMOS batteries? and watch those connectors, you dont need the nub, the keyline (the red stripe) on IDE cables is the one that goes nearest to the power connector - always. tbh EB i dont think theres owt insurmountable here. if you don´t believe me ask Must or Esqy, it´s got to be something you´re not q getting right, 3 boards is too much , no-ones that unlucky.

Except the switch, can be checked to see of full power coming through, and the powersupply itself. Got to be one of the two now. Multimeter will check the outpu from the switch. If less than required voltage, somethings don´t run, rungood. Also, I would then check voltage from the wire sets coming from the power supply. If you have replaed, eliminated everything else there is only 2 left. Do you have another swich from another box to swap to test theroy? (SP)

go to ebay: <A href=´http://computers.listings.ebay.com/700MHz-to-1GHz_Intel-Pentium-III_W0QQfromZR4QQsacategoryZ51119QQsocmdZListingItemListQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1´ Target=_Blank> Ebay.com </a> just make sure they deliver to canada

<b>Ok guys? I want to FIX my computer. not buy another one. If i could buy another one, i would, trust me. Now plz go back to the topic and not suggest ebay every 2 posts. If i had more than $1.37 in the bank, i would buy a new computer, thank you very much. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> </b> Well the thing is that i connected it both ways and both dont work. I can use the power switch/power button on my case to turn it on but i cant use it to turn it off. &quot;it&quot; being the entire system. I have to use the power supply switch. Well, from some research i did, if I dont hear any beeps, then the mobos are dead right? I tried jsut about anything. I even tried removing the RAM from the mobo and i still hear no beeps. As i understand it, if the ram slots are empty the mobo should beep right? And i connected the pc speaker to the pegs as well. Also tried both ways. Neither work...on ALL of the mobos. I know, i think i may have done somethign wrong here but im not suer what. Ive followed everything to the word. Ive also inspected the mobos and none of them have any burn marks or anything. Nor have i ever smelled any smoke. Also, i have switched the CMOS batteries around and thigns still dont work so its not that. ANd i dont have a voltmeter lying around nor do i know where to get one. Taw, do you mind goign on MSN or something? It would be very helpful if i could chat with you in real time....ill be online. Edited by - ElectricBrain on 5/8/2004 2:33:04 PM

Erm, out of curiosity here, any relations, friends or parents even that are local with a computer? know much about them inside and feel confident? You could swap Mobos with them to see if they work, or use theirs. I think they will work, and that you might be wanting (like Taw said) to check power and other supply stuff. Maybe some of the connecting cables/wires are - erm- broke? I remember when buying mine i needed to get a new power supply unit, as the old one wasn´t up to a P4 standard or something. Needless to say I bought a tower unit with it fixed in already - as it cost about the same. Possible power unit not up to scratch/wrong type or something? As you guess - i dunno much, and no technical terms, but would be using someone elses PC to check that the components work - fastest way for the &quot;un-knowledgeable&quot; like me to find out what is causing probs.

lol i know. I wish i can do that but everyone i know now is busy. And the computer im on now is a compaq and it looks like its built like a tank. im not sure if its the PSU or not. Before i got all these &quot;new&quot; parts, i went out and bought a new PSU from the mall but that didnt help at all. Im just puzzled by why i dont even hear any beeping noises from the speaker. Im sure the wires are still intact. Also, Taw, what´s the Red light on the mobos you sent me? Theres a tiny LED on the mobo itself which lights up whenever i turn on the PSU...

EB, are you on a laptop now? If a desktop, could you take the power supply out and swap it. Might give a clue, and you could leave CD, ect unpluged to test.

As I said, im on a compaq. Its a desktop system, a very old one. I opened this one up before a few weeks ago to take a look and there were metal bars everywhere blocking me. And it looks like everything is just so damn squished into the case that im scared to take anything deep inside it outside because im not sure if i can get it all back in. Not to mention i dont want to screw this computer up. My family has to use it and so i dont want to risk me breaking it.

MSN tomorrow, too hammered now, spk l8r. <i>99[% of gargoyles look like Ron Todd.. </i>

<img src=smilies/icon_smile_sad.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> ill be busy tomorrow tho... we´ll see

Mmm, the PSU could be stuffed and/or set to the incorrect voltage, but I think that that is unlikely. Personally, I would be triple-checking every cable, and even try reversing some of the cable connections if possible. One thing that I have had happen is that the power and LED cables were actually damaged on one occasion, and I required new ones before my AMD K5-133 worked. Replacing ALL of the cables might be worth a try.

Like a lot of the previous posts have suggested, check to see if you put your cables in correctly or if they´re damaged in any way. On the other hand, if the fans are turning, and the power LED is on, then that means power is flowing into the board correctly. What exactly does not work? Is there no video? Does it not boot? And as for the IDE cable orientation, there should be one square/hole that is filled in. On the mobo/IDE device, there should be a missing pin on the corresponding spot. Hope that helps.

Well, i checked the cable lots of times. Some of the IDE cables dont even have that little nub that sticks out. But like Taw said, i just had to use the red stripe on the side. But still, both orientations dont work. Ok, from my understanding, you dont need ANY ide cables connected to have the computer do a basic POST. In fact, all you should need is your mobo, cpu, and psu. And since the computer cant detect the other devices, it will beep. But mine doesnt even beep! And im pretty sure the cable for the speaker is inserted correctly. Even if teh cable for the speaker is damanged, wont the computer still be able to boot up if i install enough of the barebones devices?? The thing is, it doesnt. So im very lost. Basically, when i plug in the barebones stuff (mobo, psu, cpu, videocard, hd, floppy, ram) and i turn it on. <b>I get no video. </b> but the power led is on and the Hard drive has a light on the bottom of it which is on as well so the hd is getting power. 2 fans are spinning (cpu and psu) and thats it. Also the red light on the mobos Taw sent me are on. Also, most disturbing of all i get no beeps from the PC Speaker. Edited by - ElectricBrain on 5/9/2004 12:45:35 AM

why don´t you tell us.. what doesn´t work.. instead of telling us what you´ve done so far? IMHO you want to tear open your present power box thingy on the desktop. and if you can go to the mall everyday and buy various parts for your comp, why not just get some new stuff and build a totally new one? btw cost of a miracle is $1.11 <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle><img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> sowee, coudlnt resist <img src=smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

EB, when you turn the power on, things all hooked up, does the floppy light and CD light come on momentary as looking for OS?

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>Ok, from my understanding, you dont need ANY ide cables connected to have the computer do a basic POST. In fact, all you should need is your mobo, cpu, and psu. And since the computer cant detect the other devices, it will beep. But mine doesnt even beep! And im pretty sure the cable for the speaker is inserted correctly. <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> Y´know I would have thought that too EB but I had one of mine attempt a start up but cut the power almost immediately because of a loose IDE cable. Do your fans wind up when you hit the power? CPU and Vid card? Make sure those power attachments are home tight too, it´s a pretty common mistake to not drive them home sometimes. I know this is pretty stupid but you can do some pretty stupid things when you´re putting a PC together so here´s a couple of things to double check, the CPU is tight in the slot right? Handle is pushed all the way down? Your RAM is in secure and in tight? Just go over everything EB, check everything from top to bottom for loose connections, I guarentee it´ll be the most stupid little thing. Edited by - Mustang on 5/9/2004 6:03:06 AM