HOW TO SURVIVE ON CALGARY

    havent found calgary that bad but im not on very often now decent admin ,servers, elite is good as is raw freeport 9 is alright as well (they give you an anubis to start think its running rebalance, or similar) tried raptors pure hmm im not commenting on that one the rest ive got chars on are no better than calgary for modders lagging them most are much worse

    Hey Chips, I thought for a while I was going to escape that piss hole for a while and go to Alpha Server. It was a good solid server for a week. Apparently the modders from Calgary have gotten tired of the lag too and moved to Alpha. It all gets quite old. If anyone knows of a server not named Elite that has a steady 30 player or better population with no modders, let us know.

    Hey Chips, I have been on calgary, and this last week for sure has been horrible! TOO many people killing for no reason, just like you said. I USED to try and stop pkers, but now they all have uber hull, or you just cant see who is shooting. If this does not stop I will be leaving calgary too. I only hope I can find another server that allows mod. THE01

    Sup THEO1 <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> I died around 300 times last week in about 6 hours time in NY. It is all getting quite old. Whoever passed out that Uber Hull mod should be shot dead. There is around 12 players now pk´ing with a uber hull. No offense to you when I say i am looking for a server with no modders, you know what I mean. <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

    Sounds like the Newbs From Hell server. But luckly, none of the mods we have PK unless you tick them off. Pretty much, just avoid the modders, and the server´s fine, except for the lag, and except for the fact that no one except modders and TOTAL newbs are in (ex: &quot;Can someone tell me how to launch to space?&quot; ) Oh well, every now and then someone comes in that isnt a newb or a modder... Edited by - Cid22011 on 14-08-2003 23:54:20

    As if to prove my point...whats this....calgary is down again?????? For some reason there seem to be a hardcore bunch of PR*CKS that are intent on SPOILING games for people to the MAXIMUM!!!! The only satisfying thing is that whilst i am off to bed to give my missus a right good seing too - all they have to look foward to is there left hand.........left cos after all their action whilst crashing servers there right is now too weak to handle it. Will they ever get a life? Will they ever get a girlfriend? will they ever read this? NO - cause these machiocisitc pricks are just toooooo selve gratifying in their supposed cleverness in damage than life. The only smugness i can have over them is - well....i am loved by someone - they use the internet to whack off over people they can never get....... Chips Still pissed off and now rather drunk after a night out on the town - and going to give the missus.....................................just imagine!

    I predicted the fall of the server 2 months ago when it usually had 40/40 players. Any server allowing cheats will fail ultimately if the following assumptions are true: If non-cheaters prefer not to play with cheaters And If cheaters prefer to play with non-cheaters Then the non-cheaters will find somewhere else to play And then, as a result, the cheaters will find somewhere else to play. Of course, the initial assumptions are not exaclty true, being generalizations, but in the main I think the assumptions hold water. If they are generally true (and statistically, generalizations would be enough to cause an exodus to player levels below what is needed to sustain a healthy server), then Cheaters are really like locusts. They descend on an unwary server and consume it´s player-base until there is nothing left to consume - then they move on to another target. And also like locusts, they do this mindlessly, without understanding that their desire to move on is a direct result of their actions on the server. My advice to you as a non-cheater would be to find a server where cheaters are taken very seriously and banned. Don´t shoot yourself in the foot and waste time establishing characters on a server with a lax admin. Choose servers like elite, browclopsia, seatlle, Argonia etc where cheaters don´t last long. I spent all of 3 days on Calgary, and moved on right away. And that was a big step, because the calgary server is located in my neiborhood, gives me a 10 ping, and uses the same router as I do (by the IP). I can tracert it in one hop.. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

    yees we all know who spilled about the mods and yes we have some peeps that intentionaly lag the server to p*** ppl off and we try to keep them under control but this thread is a joke who cares quit bien a p***** and instead of crying beat them

    That´s not how the real world works my friend. The best thing to do with a cheater is not to whine, but neither is it to try and beat them by cheating (lol). The best thing to do is refuse to play with them. When someone is cheating at poker you don´t all start cheating. You either kick the cheater out, or you find a clean game. You see, anyone with an IQ of 70 can mod himself an unbeatable ship. A game of ´who can cheat the most´ is far too easy of a game. The rules are basic, and the means are simple. That kind of game would be entertaining for about 5 minutes. It pales in comparison to trying to raise your manual skills and develop your strategies to the point of excelling in the unmodded game. I wouldn´t expect a cheater to get that, because they aren´t up to that level yet... (seriously) No, I much prefer playing on a rabidly anti-cheat server vs some of the best players in the game, to playing ´who-knows-how-to-download-or-edit-txt-files´ with a pack of brainless ten-year-olds. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> But cheaters hardly make me angry. Far from it. They are just a roadblock you have to drive around, like Deer on the road, and just about as clever. When you are planning a trip, plan it on a server where your trip will be smooth and uneventful.

    You seem to have missed my point here ghetto - so stfu! I was pointing out to newbs who turn up and moan at being pked by idiots (server rules - NO pking in NY!). Obviously i can survive - speed, uber hull, cloaks, money etc etc - so i aint moaning about that - but about the LAG caused by the recent plethora (that means large amounts - use a dictionary if you wish...just helping you out here <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> ) of modders that mean you regularly get about 1 min of lag and maybe more......which means that you cannot really play the game without mods (you get killed by enemy factions whilst waiting for stuff....) I wonder if you ever play without your mods? or if you really are just a bad pilot....lol. I regularly play on other servers without any mods whatsoever - i abide by server rules and turn them off - in fact, i have 4 versions of FL installed. 1 TOTALLY clean for servers with rules, 1 lightly modded to shoot through uber shields and see cloakers (not too cloak though), 1 was for damon (server owner of calgary) and the server he used to work on (i tested it for him to find bugs and stuff - it was gonna be a clan war server with lots and lots of really nice stuff - kinda like NU is gonna be - but stopped working on it over 2months ago now.......) and my stupidly modded version for the RETRO´S character that my flatmate uses (to attempt to keep the server modded pker free in manhat).....but he now doesn´t even bother due to the amount of uber hulls - which just now causes lag......so that is deleted. Now you can just sit there and type another load of BS about moaning and how manly you are etc etc - but i didn´t post this for your benefit...it was for newbs who turn up there and don´t know about how the server is! You can get past the modders to play - but when the lag monster stomps around due to the penis measuring competitions that they have (i suppose you are the guy that moaned about path shooting off all his guns as you tried to pk rampage.....bet you feel really big doing that don´t you!) then you cannot play at all - FULL STOP. That is what i was posting about really!. BTW - if you really are intent on handing out mods to everyone - maybe i should just go on calgary and hand out every mod possible - you know- ruin your fun of the ´I have learnt how to mod something and so i am god and will tell everyone else so they worship me´ feeling - but then again, i aint a twat - so i won´t......... Chips p.s - flame away - i don´t care really - i just want to play a game i brought and enjoy my time doing so! If your enjoyment includes pking and modding to feel good in manhatten - then good for you. That is your choice....i am just warning others about how the server is. I aint moaning - cos to do that i have to care - and i don´t. Now off to go play without mods somewhere else and carryon enjoying the game again.

    Damn! I used to play there. I was going to go back as soon as I got my Freelancer cd back from a mooching friend. Can anyone recommend a server that is like Calgary used to be? The last word is mine. Always.

    Each one learns his judgment and is assigned a place in Hell. -Herr Von Clausen

    u seem to have missed my point quit being an ass and listen if any of us see a nooB getting pke we step in and we get the noob to safety and yes we all start the nooBs off with a little $$ and it isnt nooB´s that get pked to much anymore it is the higher lvl players such as me but i cant die so they quit tryng the nooBs as long as they stay away from our nore notorious pkers they are safe maybey if they actually did something instead of siting around newark with us high lvl players they wouldnt be pked so - stfu

    Cheaters are all noobs. Plain and simple. You can learn to do ship editing in the course of an hour. On the other hand, it takes many months to become a skilled pilot. I get a real kick out of your usage of the word ´noob´ since you obviously have no idea you are also firmly in that category yourself. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> When you get tired of hiding behind those dead easy cheats and a weak server that will allow them, come to a real server and learn what a real pilot is. Yeah, you´ll die alot at first, but in about 2 months you just might start surviving the first pass in a duel. Believe me, it´ll be worth it. Your ego will be stripped down at first, but in the end you´ll be a better man (or boy) for it. <img src=smilies/icon_smile_big.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

    Ghetto has a point. Yeas there are quit a few modders on calgary BUT a very very select few use that to PK. Almost all the people i know on there who do MOD dont PK. Myslef and a few others step in when someone is being camped or killed and try to help. I am not self rightous, yes i do PK BUT i am doing so to let someone new have a chance to go play. There is nothing wrong with doing that. If you have a problem with my way of thinking ohh well. Those who me and Ghetto have helped and play with regularly have had no problem with it and that is what matters to me.

    My last post (and shorter...) I don´t really care about the pking - adds spice to it. If you read my rather long posts - what i care about is the fact that every other minute the server is bogged down with alot of lag. It isn´t just me - it happens to everyone - as everyone chimes in to moan about the lag. Maybe you aren´t responsible - but when that idiot of a happy bunny friend just zips round trying to cause lag - it is annoying.... There is only one reason why he does it- to spoil the game. Lots of others do it too - but maybe we are on at different times - so you get a different crowd on there.. Its the LAG caused by all the modders that is the problem......and the reason for the crashes too... Sod the pking honestly - once your out of NY you are usually fine - but occasionally (bout 50% of the time) there are some modders who JUST pick on who ever they can kill - ie newbs to the server. ITS THE LAG CAUSED BY ALL THE MODDING THAT HAS RUINED THE SERVER... aint fun to trade all day - buy your freighter then get lag killed at a jumpgate as people piss around elsewhere...........end of discussion for me.. Chips p.s that was longer than I intended admitedly - and Ghetto - now you might actually READ my point (and understand) - stfu.....lol <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

    do what i did...give up and just play single player. just download mods to change the single player experience, and keep trying new mods. i would play online, but it got so damn repetitve.... Find buddies to hang with. Do trade runs together. Duel one another. Say good night. Rinse, repeat. That´s all there is to do online.

    first of all i would like to say f**** you chips u are stupid and secondly well yes u could go and find some friends to playt with but my point is y complain about it y not just leave it alone and go play somewere else instead of sounding like a little B**** im right ur wrong that is all i have to say

    I am stupid - i can live with that. Even my stupidity allows me to include proper punctuation in my posts....... And last point Ghetto - you are right about what exactly?? You haven´t made a point. Now from what i see there are several types of posters on the forums here. Those that ask questions Those that answer, teach and help out people who are new to modding and then there are the others - of which you fall into one category. Every post i have read from you is of just 2 types. 1. The malicious posts that call poeple names, cowards and then brag about how you can mod (see the post about spawning things and guns) - where you´re comments were ´you obviously can´t mod.......hello - i aint seen you posting much here - NEW to it i take it then! 2. The ´ANYONE WANT THE CLOAK - EMAIL ME AND I´LL PROVIDE´ - Now personally i despise this type of post - and most will agree. You see - we care about the MP servers - and don´t want to see serves ruined due to irresponsible modders who just want to ruin games. Also, this seems to show the extent of your modding ablilities. You haven´t posted any help to questions posed in the editing forums whatsoever - so, to then say others can´t mod (especially those who have been posting here for a long time) shows your total lack of understanding and forum ethics..... Chips p.s flame away - but please use punctuation in the post at least.... *EDIT* - i changed what i put first time as i didn´t wish to sink to your level of posting. Please tell me what you were right about as well......... Edited by - chips on 16-08-2003 16:59:26