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you got me a bit confused there... 3db a 3ds max format? huh?

yep. i know. 3ds is the format for 3dstudio max, but the 3db really is a 3ds formatted 3D file. DA even said so. Looking like mad for my 3ds disk cause I formatted the computer last week. Now I cannot find my disk lol

as far as i remember (and that would fit with what HCl said) it´s encrypted...

yea, i too am thinking it is a bit. However, the ships seem to have been handled alot like our ole starlancer shp files were. Should take nothin to reverse engineer it. Right HCI? /emote poke

i think they may even be just simple encrypted 3ds/max files... HCl said he allready done had a little bit of research into it.... can´t wait until we can import our own ships <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

aye. my only downside is that i have to goto work in about 3 more days. wont be home to model/code till april 3rd.

engine_equip.ini<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>[Engine nickname = ge_pfr_engine_01 ;Pirate Freighter - the Muel ids_name = 263701 ids_info = 264701 volume = 0.000000 mass = 10 max_force = 60000 ;48000 ;formula for velocities/forces, ;where m is distance in meters and f is the outcome force, m * 600 = f ;72,000 is 120m/s, 60,000 is 100m/s, 48,000 is 80m/s linear_drag = 599 power_usage = 0 reverse_fraction = 0.333333 ; 0.200000 flame_effect = gf_co_smallengine03_fire trail_effect = gf_co_smallengine03_trail trail_effect_player = gf_co_smallengine03_playtrail cruise_charge_time = 0.1 ;1 ;setting it this low pretty much eliminates cruise charge time, ;still takes time to get to stop speed, speaking of which... ;where the hell IS the cruise speed? cruise_power_usage = 20 character_start_sound = engine_pi_freighter_start character_loop_sound = engine_pi_freighter_loop character_pitch_range = -50, 25 rumble_sound = rumble_pi_freighter rumble_atten_range = -5, 0 rumble_pitch_range = -25, 25 engine_kill_sound = engine_pi_freighter_kill cruise_start_sound = engine_bw_cruise_start cruise_loop_sound = engine_bw_cruise_loop cruise_stop_sound = engine_bw_cruise_stop cruise_disrupt_sound = cruise_disrupt cruise_backfire_sound = cruise_backfire indestructible = false outside_cone_attenuation = -3 inside_sound_cone = 60 ;distance in meters outside_sound_cone = 180 </font></pre> shiparch.ini<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>[Ship ids_name = 237046 ids_info = 66591 ids_info1 = 66592 ids_info2 = 66608 ids_info3 = 66593 ship_class = 2 nickname = pi_freighter LODranges = 0, 60, 120, 1000 msg_id_prefix = gcs_refer_shiparch_pirf mission_property = can_use_berths type = FREIGHTER DA_archetype = Shipscorsairco_freighterco_freighter.cmp material_library = shipscorsairco_ships.mat material_library = fxenvmapbasic.mat envmap_material = envmapbasic fuse = intermed_damage_smallship01, 0.000000, 550 fuse = intermed_damage_smallship02, 0.000000, 275 fuse = intermed_damage_smallship03, 0.000000, 183 max_bank_angle = 15 camera_offset = 10, 47 camera_angular_acceleration = 0.035000 camera_horizontal_turn_angle = 20 camera_vertical_turn_up_angle = 5 camera_vertical_turn_down_angle = 20 camera_turn_look_ahead_slerp_amount = 1.000000 nanobot_limit = 100 ;15 shield_battery_limit = 100 ;15 hit_pts = 10000 ;2200 cockpit = cockpitscorsaircorsair_freighter.ini pilot_mesh = generic_pilot mass = 300.000000 linear_drag = 1.000000 hold_size = 3000 ;90 explosion_arch = explosion_co_freighter ;fuses added where damaged on ship surface_hit_effects = 0, small_hull_hit_light01, small_hull_hit_light02, small_hull_hit_light03 surface_hit_effects = 150, small_hull_hit_medium01, small_hull_hit_medium02, small_hull_hit_medium03 surface_hit_effects = 300, small_hull_hit_heavy01, small_hull_hit_heavy02, small_hull_hit_heavy03 ;´frog-ass´ handling (so tight, it´s water-tight!) steering_torque = 6000.000000, 6000.000000, 6000.000000 ;54000.000000, 54000.000000, 104000.000000 angular_drag = 4500.000000, 4500.000000, 4500.000000 ;60000.000000, 60000.000000, 60000.000000 rotation_inertia = 1200.000000, 1200.000000, 1200.000000 ;16800.000000, 16800.000000, 16800.000000 nudge_force = 30000.000000 strafe_force = 30000 ;20000 strafe_power_usage = 5 ;2 bay_door_anim = Sc_open baydoor bay_doors_open_snd = cargo_doors_open bay_doors_close_snd = cargo_doors_close ; from here on down, HP means ´hardpoint´ HP_bay_surface = HpBayDoor01 HP_bay_external = HpBayDoor02 shield_link = pi_freighter_shield01, HpMount, HpShield01 ;all this is modded, didn´t record the origional ; just made all the mounts on it take all level 10 weps ; wanna try mixing hp_gun_special_ &amp; hp_turret_special_ on the same hardpoint hp_type = hp_gun_special_10, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_gun_special_9, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_gun_special_8, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_gun_special_7, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_gun_special_6, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_gun_special_5, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_gun_special_4, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_gun_special_3, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_gun_special_2, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_gun_special_1, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_10, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_9, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_8, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_7, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_6, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_5, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_4, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_3, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_2, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_1, HpShield01 hp_type = hp_thruster, HpThruster01 hp_type = hp_mine_dropper, HpMine01 hp_type = hp_countermeasure_dropper, HpCM01 hp_type = hp_turret_special_10, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 hp_type = hp_turret_special_9, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 hp_type = hp_turret_special_8, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 hp_type = hp_turret_special_7, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 hp_type = hp_turret_special_6, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 hp_type = hp_turret_special_5, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 hp_type = hp_turret_special_4, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 hp_type = hp_turret_special_3, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 hp_type = hp_turret_special_2, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 hp_type = hp_turret_special_1, HpTurret01, HpTurret02, HpTurret03, HpTurret04 HP_tractor_source = HpTractor_Source num_exhaust_nozzles = 2 </font></pre> st_equip.ini<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>[Thruster nickname = ge_s_thruster_04 ;Advanced Thruster ids_name = 263740 ids_info = 264740 DA_archetype = equipmentmodelsstku_thruster.3db material_library = equipmentmodelsku_equip.mat HP_child = HpConnect hit_pts = 8000 explosion_resistance = 0.500000 debris_type = debris_normal parent_impulse = 20 child_impulse = 80 ; I have only a slight idea what these two impulses are volume = 0.000000 mass = 10 max_force = 594000 ; 72000 ;990m/s, as high as the in-game meter can show particles = gf_br_largeengine01 ;gf_ge_s_thruster_01 ; hehe .. looks funny on a sabre, still cool tho hp_particles = hpthrust power_usage = 0 ; 125 ;400 or greater should be more ´appropriate´ ; but I´m just using this for fast travel lootable = true separation_explosion = sever_debris LODranges = 0, 20 </font></pre> Where in the hell is the cruise speed kept? I´ve been looking everywhere for it!

<font size=1 face="trebuchet ms"><BLOCKQUOTE><hr size=1 noshade>yep. i know. 3ds is the format for 3dstudio max, but the 3db really is a 3ds formatted 3D file. DA even said so. Looking like mad for my 3ds disk cause I formatted the computer last week. Now I cannot find my disk lol <hr size=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face=´trebuchet ms, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica´ size=2> Eh, how do you import them then <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> ? If I simpely rename a 3db to 3ds and try to import it, 3ds max (5.1) gives an error pop-up: 3DSIMP; Invalid file And then : Import; Improper file format. <img src=´http://home.planet.nl/~wijk0961/freelance_pozosig.gif ´>

Well, 3db files are in UTF format (i´m naming them that since the files start with the string &quot;UTF &quot; ) however these formats (used in files with extension UTF, 3DB, CMP, TXM, MAT, ALE, VMS, DFM, and maybe some more i´ve missed <img src=smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> ) seem to include inside themselves other file types.. For example, *.utf files seem to have *.wav files, which i´ve ripped successfully, they don´t seem to be encrypted in any case. I´m currently examining these utf files in great detail<img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Also, the files included inside 3db may very well be 3ds or max files, although i haven´t been able to open these sucessfully in 3D Studio Max. It may be a variant, or simply i may need to take into account data from other sections of the file. Again, i still don´t know much, but i´m investigating. As soon as i know anything, you guys will be the first to know <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> Mario Edited by - HCl on 01-03-2003 00:48:48

thanks for the update <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> a wav file? how does it sound? If you need any help (reference files for example), just ask <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

your cruise speed is located in the constants.ini file is I am not mistaken.

constants.ini<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>[Constants COLLISION_DAMAGE_FACTOR = 0.500000 MUSIC_CROSS_FADE_DELAY = 10.000000 MUZZLE_CONE_ANGLE = 40 PLAYER_COLLISION_GROUP_HIT_PTS_SCALE = 3 PLAYER_ATTACHED_EQUIP_HIT_PTS_SCALE = 5 [EngineEquipConsts CRUISE_DISRUPT_TIME = 5 MAX_DELTA_FX_THROTTLE = 0.250000 THROTTLE_STEADY_TIME = 0.500000 THROTTLE_ATTEN_MOD_RANGE = 8.000000 DELTA_THROTTLE_ATTEN_MOD_CHANGING = 8.000000 DELTA_THROTTLE_ATTEN_MOD_STEADY = -1.000000 CRUISE_STEADY_TIME = 2.000000 DELTA_CRUISE_ATTEN_MOD_STEADY = -1.000000 CRUISE_ATTEN_MOD_RANGE = 8.000000 [ShieldEquipConsts HULL_DAMAGE_FACTOR = 0.500000 [PhySysConsts MATERIAL_FRICTION = 0.100000 MATERIAL_ELASTICITY = 0.900000 DEFAULT_LINEAR_DAMPING = 0.500000 DEFAULT_ANGULAR_DAMPING = 0.200000, 0.200000, 0.200000 [CommConsts COMM_PLAYER_FAR_DIST = 6000.000000 COMM_PLAYER_FAR_DIST_ATTEN = 0.000000 CHATTER_MAX_DIST = 3500.000000 CHATTER_MAX_DIST_ATTEN = -16.000000 CHATTER_START_ATTEN = -2.000000 COMM_CONFLICT_PRIORITY_CUTOFF = -3 WALLA_MAX_DIST = 3500.000000 WALLA_MAX_DIST_ATTEN = -24.000000 WALLA_START_ATTEN = -8.000000 WALLA_PRIORITY_CUTOFF = -3 [AsteroidConsts MAX_ASTEROID_LOOT_DAMAGE = 20000.000000 MAX_LOOT_PER_ASTEROID = 3 </font></pre>and which of these is the cruise speed of 300 meters per second (180000, relative to ingame units)? perhaps you are mistaken?

Static, is there an easy way to tell which engine belongs to which ship? <img src=´http://www.peregate.com/dora/tlrsig.gif ´>

you might want to look into the conquest frontier wars editing tools it has a database editor and an UTF viewer (I don´t think the particle viewer has any uses in freelancer)

no, no real easy way that I can see.. maybe if someone made a GUI IDE to load all the dlls, and the inis and refer between them to locate each .. yeah ok.. anyway, you can look for filenames, or just abbreviations.. I found pi_freighter´s engine by finding it in the sound filenames.. character_start_sound = engine_pi_freighter_start the IDs are an important .. thing.. I need to look into, probably how the dll links the names &amp; other details

Cool, thanks! <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

There´s a program that can read UTF files already? Great, it will be great help <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle> I downloaded the mod tools package from hconquest.ubi.com, but it won´t install on my comp, since it doesn´t have C:FW installed.. Could you possibly send these tools to me for examination? My e-mail is mbrito@student.dei.uc.pt .Thanks <img src=smilies/icon_smile.gif width=15 height=15 border=0 align=middle>

still haven´t found the cruise speed.. messed with some particle effects.. you can engines on gun hardpoints. glowy glowy glowy.

I just got home and set the mod server up to play for the night and most of the day saturday while i am gone. i will look and tell you exactly where the cruise is kept cause i know i saw it. hell, i went through 95% of the .ini files thursday Cham